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The simplest way to tell the time is simply reading the number of hours and the number of railai alone, followed by the locative case of the time period (8-hour division, ''garaṃlāṇa''), and ''vi'', the 3SG of "to be", which is usually always stated:
The simplest way to tell the time is simply reading the number of hours and the number of railai alone, followed by the locative case of the time period (8-hour division, ''garaṃlāṇa''), and ''vi'', the 3SG of "to be", which is usually always stated:
* ''Bh 4.1ᘔ'' — ''nęlte hælmāmitålda bhraṃšāye vi'' (it's four and twenty-two<sub>10</sub> <small>(four and one dozen plus ten)</small> in the afternoon).
* ''S 4.1ᘔ'' — ''nęlte hælmāmitålda saṃlallenīs vi'' (it's four and twenty-two<sub>10</sub> <small>(four and one dozen plus ten)</small> in the afternoon).
* ''L 2.57'' — ''dani šulkmāmichīka lalye vi'' (it's two and sixty-seven<sub>10</sub> <small>(two and five dozens plus seven)</small> in the night).
* ''L 2.57'' — ''dani šulkmāmichīka lalye vi'' (it's two and sixty-seven<sub>10</sub> <small>(two and five dozens plus seven)</small> in the night).
This format is, however, rarely used, mainly when reading legal texts or giving second-hand reports (therefore it's extremely common in news reports).
This format is, however, rarely used, mainly when reading legal texts or giving second-hand reports (therefore it's extremely common in news reports).


The main system used takes three main reference points - ''.00'', ''.20'', and ''.40'' - dividing therefore the hour in three equal parts of 20<sub>12</sub> railai, and expresses time relative to those three. The half hour (''.30'') is additionally used as a secondary reference point:
The main system used takes three main reference points - ''.00'', ''.20'', and ''.40'' - dividing therefore the hour in three equal parts of 20<sub>12</sub> railai, and expresses time relative to those three. The half hour (''.30'') is additionally used as a secondary reference point:
* ''Bh 2.00'' — ''dani bhraṃšāye vi'' (it's two in the afternoon)
* ''S 2.00'' — ''dani saṃlallenīs vi'' (it's two in the afternoon)
* ''Bh 2.20'' — ''dani bhraṃšāye pāmvendvāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and one third)
* ''S 2.20'' — ''dani saṃlallenīs pāmvendvāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and one third)
* ''Bh 2.30'' — ''vālpāmvya bhraṃšāye vi'' (it's 2½ in the afternoon) or less commonly ''dani bhraṃšāye hælinaivāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and half)
* ''S 2.30'' — ''vālpāmvya saṃlallenīs vi'' (it's 2½ in the afternoon) or less commonly ''dani bhraṃšāye hælinaivāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and half)
* ''Bh 2.40'' — ''pāmvyå bhraṃšāye pāmvendvāṭ vi'' (it's one third to three in the afternoon) or less commonly ''dani bhraṃšāye dani pāmvendvāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and two thirds)
* ''S 2.40'' — ''pāmvyå saṃlallenīs pāmvendvāṭ vi'' (it's one third to three in the afternoon) or less commonly ''dani bhraṃšāye dani pāmvendvāṭ (no) vi'' (it's two in the afternoon and two thirds)
Time is usually additive and not subtractive, except for ''.40'' (as in the previous example), ''.46'', ''.50'', and ''.56'' (respectively ¼, 10<sub>12</sub>, and 6 minutes before the next hour). Subtractive time is, as expected, expressed by the dative case of the next hour:
Time is usually additive and not subtractive, except for ''.40'' (as in the previous example), ''.46'', ''.50'', and ''.56'' (respectively ¼, 10<sub>12</sub>, and 6 minutes before the next hour). Subtractive time is, as expected, expressed by the dative case of the next hour:
* ''Bh 2.46'' — ''pamvyå bhraṃšāye māmivælka vi'' (it's sixteen<sub>12</sub> to three in the afternoon)
* ''S 2.46'' — ''pamvyå saṃlallenīs māmivælka vi'' (it's sixteen<sub>12</sub> to three in the afternoon)
* ''Bh 2.50'' — ''pamvyå bhraṃšāye māmei vi'' (it's twelve to three in the afternoon)
* ''S 2.50'' — ''pamvyå saṃlallenīs māmei vi'' (it's twelve to three in the afternoon)
* ''Bh 2.56'' — ''pamvyå bhraṃšāye tulūɂa vi'' (it's six to three in the afternoon)
* ''S 2.56'' — ''pamvyå saṃlallenīs tulūɂa vi'' (it's six to three in the afternoon)
For all other cases, the time is told as "<small>ORDINAL IN LOCATIVE CASE OF THE HOUR</small>, <small>GARAṂLĀṆA IN GENITIVE CASE</small>, <small>ORDINAL OF THE ELAPSED THIRD OF HOUR</small> (except for ''.01'' to ''.1Ɛ'') and <small>NUMBER OF RAILAI</small>". Note that, however, in most cases Chlouvānem people approximate to the nearest six railai (e.g. ''.24'' is told as if it were ''.26''):
For all other cases, the time is told as "<small>ORDINAL IN LOCATIVE CASE OF THE HOUR</small>, <small>GARAṂLĀṆA IN GENITIVE CASE</small>, <small>ORDINAL OF THE ELAPSED THIRD OF HOUR</small> (except for ''.01'' to ''.1Ɛ'') and <small>NUMBER OF RAILAI</small>". Note that, however, in most cases Chlouvānem people approximate to the nearest six railai (e.g. ''.24'' is told as if it were ''.26''):
* ''Bh 2.1Ɛ'' — ''daniendye bhraṃšāyi māmivælden vi'' (it's twenty-three<sub>10</sub> <small>(two and one dozen plus eleven)</small> in the second of the afternoon)
* ''S 2.1Ɛ'' — ''daniendye saṃlallumi māmivælden vi'' (it's twenty-three<sub>10</sub> <small>(two and one dozen plus eleven)</small> in the second of the afternoon)
* ''Bh 2.35'' — ''daniendye bhraṃšāyi lahīla māmišulka (no) vi'' (it's the first [third of hour] and seventeen<sub>10</sub> <small>(one dozen plus five)</small> in the second of the afternoon)
* ''S 2.35'' — ''daniendye saṃlallumi lahīla māmišulka (no) vi'' (it's the first [third of hour] and seventeen<sub>10</sub> <small>(one dozen plus five)</small> in the second of the afternoon)
* ''Bh 2.48'' — ''daniendye bhraṃšāyi hælinaika tītya (no) vi'' (it's the second [third of hour] and eight in the second of the afternoon)
* ''S 2.48'' — ''daniendye saṃlallumi hælinaika tītya (no) vi'' (it's the second [third of hour] and eight in the second of the afternoon)


The word ''raila'' is usually never stated if the hour number is present; if it is implied, then ''raila'' (always in the singular, as it's preceded by a numeral) must be stated - note also the question about minutes, not the hour:
The word ''raila'' is usually never stated if the hour number is present; if it is implied, then ''raila'' (always in the singular, as it's preceded by a numeral) must be stated - note also the question about minutes, not the hour:
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