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|region = [[w:Europe|Central and far East Europe]]
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|child1=[[Alpian languages|Alpian]]
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The Alpatho-Hirtic languages, also known as '''Oronaic''', are spoken in regions of the Alps and the Carpathians as well as in the northern part of the Ural Mountains in Russia. The Oronaic family consists of six languages, spoken by approximately 400,000 people.
The Alpatho-Hirtic languages, also known as '''Oronaic''', are spoken in regions of the Alps and the Carpathians as well as in the northern part of the Ural Mountains in Russia. The Oronaic family consists of six languages, spoken by approximately 400,000 people.
 
The name "Alpatho-Hirtic" is made from names of two main branches the Alpathian languages and Hirtian. This term was more popular in the late XX century, but nowadays it is speculated, if the Alpathian languages had a common ancestor distinct from Hirtian, or Alpian, Carpathian and Hirtian are three separate branches; so a new term "Oronaic" became being used more. It derives from Classical Greek ὄρος “mountain” and ναίω “I inhabit” because all three groups are spoken in the mountainous regions. Sometimes "Oronaic" is used while mentioning only the Alpian and the Carpatian groups without including Hirtian.
The name "Alpatho-Hirtic" is made from names of two main branches the Alpathian languages and Hirtian. This term was more popular in the late XX century, but nowadays it is speculated, if the Alpathian languages had a common ancestor distinct from Hirtian, or Alpian, Carpathian and Hirtian are three separate branches; so a new term "Oronaic" became being used more. It derives from Classical Greek ὄρος “mountain” and ναίω “I inhabit” because all three groups are spoken in the mountainous regions. Sometimes "Oronaic" is used while mentioning only the Alpian and the Carpatian groups without including Hirtian.


The Alpatho-Hirtic languages derive from a common ancestral language called Proto-Oronaic Having separated perhaps in the IV millennium BC, they became a diverse group of languages, so their proto-language can not be reconstructed precisely.
The Alpatho-Hirtic languages derive from a common ancestral language called Proto-Oronaic Having separated perhaps in the IV millennium BC, they became a diverse group of languages, so their proto-language can not be reconstructed precisely.
==Classification==
==Classification==
===Internal classification===
According to the newest picture of this language family, the Oronaic languages are divided into three groups: Alpian, Carpathian and Hirtian. These languages also divide into various dialects creating a dialectal continuum.
According to the newest picture of this language family, the Oronaic languages are divided into three groups: Alpian, Carpathian and Hirtian. These languages also divide into various dialects creating a dialectal continuum.


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** †East Vaand, possibly close to Central Vaand
** †East Vaand, possibly close to Central Vaand


; Carpatian
; Carpathian
* West Carpatian
* West Carpathian
**†Äzeränci Carpatian, a dialect of West Carpatian or a separate language.
**†Äzeränci Carpathian, a dialect of West Carpathian or a separate language.
** Ränci Carpatian
** Ränci Carpathian
** Šilli Carpatian
** Šilli Carpathian
** Orava Carpatian
** Orava Carpathian
** Prešov Carpatian
** Prešov Carpathian
* East Carpatian
* East Carpathian
** Halicia Carpathian
** Halicia Carpathian
** Jīri Carpathian
** Jīri Carpathian
** Puohō Carpatian
** Puohō Carpathian
* †transitional East-South Carpatian
* †transitional East-South Carpathian
* South Carpatian
* South Carpathian
; Hirtian
; Hirtian
* Hirtya
* Hirtya
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** Baaye
** Baaye
** Vaand
** Vaand
* Carpatian
* Carpathian
** †Äzeränci
** †Äzeränci
** West Carpathian
** West Carpathian
** East Carpatian
** East Carpathian
** South Carpatian
** South Carpathian
===External classification===
Many external relationships between Oronaic and other language families have been suggested, but none of them are generally accepted by linguists. The statistical improbability and other difficulties, like the time of diversification and expansion or lexical differences, of linking any Alpatho-Hirtic language with their Indo-European neighbours inspired many scholars to search for its possible relatives elsewhere. Besides many pseudoscientific comparisons, several attempts were made to connect the Oronaic languages with geographically distant language families. None of these hypotheses have a solid evidence of a relation between any language group. Some of these hypothetical connections are:
*'''Uralic languages''' - the hypothesis suggests that Uralic and Alpatho-Hirtic are related at a fairly close level. Some cognates are found between Proto-Oronaic and Proto-Uralic reconstructed languages, however most of these are uncertain. Also while comparing Proto-Oronaic to Proto-Samic the ammount of cognates is larger, which can probably be explained by borrowing.
*'''Indo-European languages''' - Proto-Oronaic could have been a close relative of Proto-Indo-European or an Indo-European creole with an unknown substrate. It is supported by the fact that the majority of Oronaic basic lexicon (including many intransitive verbs as well as some kinship terms) from neighbouring Indo-European languages. Nowadays this theory is not so popular, as lexical similarities are explained via close and prolonged contacts with various branches of Indo-European family. Despite modern Alpatho-Hirtic languages show some morphological and syntactic similarities with Indo-European languages, Proto-Oronaic grammar was very different and probably resembled a Proto-Chukotko-Kamchatkan one. Also, Hirtya has more common vocabulary with Samoyed languages (mostly Nenets) than with any Indo-European language, including basic words for body parts, weather and tools.
*'''Proto-Samic substrate''' - as was mentioned previously, Proto-Oronaic shows some word correspondences with Proto-Samic, including a large ammount of words that can not be found in any other language group within Proto-Uralic. An idea that Proto-Oronaic or its rlative may contribute a substrate to modern Samic languages.
*'''Siberian''' - a hypothesis that propose a common ancestor for Oronaic, Uralic, Yukaghir, Chukotko-Kamchatkan, and sometimes also Eskimo–Aleut languages. Not widely accepted.
*'''Nostratic''' - a proposed unity or/and a common descendance of language families, which associates Oronaic, Indo-European, Uralic, Altaic, Dravidian, and various other language families of Asia. The Nostratic hypothesis was first propounded by Holger Pedersen in 1903 and revived by Vladislav Illich-Svitych and Aharon Dolgopolsky in the 1960s.
*'''Separate language families''' - an idea, that Alpian, Carpathian and Hirtian are three distinct language families and Proto-Oronaic has never existed, was introduced in early 1980s when Hirtya had began to be studied more. A similar theory combines the Alpian and the Carpathian languages into a single Alpathian family without Hirtian, which is believed to be separate.
*'''Caucasian languages''' - linking Oronaic to Caucasian languages, such as Georgian, is now widely discredited. The hypothesis was inspired by the possible connection between Basque (a Pre-Indo-European language of Western Europe) and languages of the Caucasus as a single Old European continuum, that had existed before the expansion of Indo-Europeans. No certain typological similarities between the languages were actually found.
 
==History==
==History==
===Homeland and expansion===
===Homeland and expansion===
The Alpian and the Carpathian peoples were considered indigenous to Europe for a long period of time. Their homeland is usually placed in the region between Austria and Slovakia or between Slovakia and Ukraine. Archeological data as well as placenames and substrate words support this theory. The situation with the Oronaic Urheimat is not so obvious. There are three main theories. According to the first one, Proto-Oronaic was spoken in the north-western part of modern day Belarus, which is supported archeologically but genetic analysis disproves this theory. Other two theories place the homeland in the [[w:Valdai Hills|Valdai Hills]] territory and an area between [[w:Republic of Karelia|the Republic of Karelia]] [[w:Arkhangelsk Oblast|Arkhangelsk Oblast]] in Russia.
The Alpian and the Carpathian peoples were considered indigenous to Europe for a long period of time. Their homeland is usually placed in the region between Austria and Slovakia or between Slovakia and Ukraine. Archeological data as well as placenames and substrate words support this theory. The situation with the Oronaic Urheimat is not so obvious. There are three main theories. According to the first one, Proto-Oronaic was spoken in the north-western part of modern day Belarus, which is supported archeologically but genetic analysis disproves this theory. Other two theories place the homeland in the [[w:Valdai Hills|Valdai Hills]] territory and an area between [[w:Republic of Karelia|the Republic of Karelia]] and [[w:Arkhangelsk Oblast|the Arkhangelsk Oblast]] in Russia.


All three branches became separate probably in the III millennium BCE. Archeological data shows that people who spoke those early languages had sparcely populated North-East Europe before they were pushed south or assimilated by other cultures migrating from the east. The speakers of Proto-Hirtian slowly migrated to the north and east until they reached the Urals near the [[w:Komi peoples|Komi-Zyrians]] and [[w:Nenets people|Nenets people]]. On the other hand, Alpian and Carpathian peoples moved further south and westwards until they settled in the Carpatians and slowly spread around Alps. Supposedly there were even more languages or even language groups in this family, that are now extinct due to the migration of Indo-European cultures.
All three branches became separate probably in the III millennium BCE. Archeological data shows that people who spoke those early languages had sparcely populated North-East Europe before they were pushed south or assimilated by other cultures migrating from the east. The speakers of Proto-Hirtian slowly migrated to the north and east until they reached the Urals near the [[w:Komi peoples|Komi-Zyrians]] and [[w:Nenets people|Nenets people]]. On the other hand, Alpian and Carpathian peoples moved further south and westwards until they settled in the Carpatians and slowly spread around Alps. Supposedly there were even more languages or even language groups in this family, that are now extinct due to the migration of Indo-European cultures.
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*different roots for some positive and negative verbs (like East Carpathian ''šammet/ehčet'' "to see"/"not to see")
*different roots for some positive and negative verbs (like East Carpathian ''šammet/ehčet'' "to see"/"not to see")
*use of possessive suffixes, expressing possession via genitive
*use of possessive suffixes, expressing possession via genitive
*several plural (and dual for Hirtya) markers, like -j (-i), -k, -n/-ng. In Carpatian however only a few words have other markers than -k
*several plural (and dual for Hirtya) markers, like -j (-i), -k, -n/-ng. In Carpathian however only a few words have other markers than -k
*the concepts like "to be", "to have", "to do", "to wish" and some others are represented by suffixes attached to an object of a sentence
*the concepts like "to be", "to have", "to do", "to wish" and some others are represented by suffixes attached to an object of a sentence
*nouns, used with a numeral, are singular if they refer to things which form a single group (Vaand ''gou jies'' ("three years", literally "three year")
*nouns, used with a numeral, are singular if they refer to things which form a single group (Vaand ''gou jies'' ("three years", literally "three year")
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===Lexicography===
===Lexicography===
A basic Proto-Oronaic vocabulary, consisting of words for family members (mother, sister, son), body parts (head, heart, tooth, eye), nature objects(star, fire, water, stone, branch), basic verbs (go, live, fall, see, hear, know) and pronouns (I, you, who), numerals two and three, can be reconstructed, but many of these words lack regular phonetic correspondences due to a large timescale of the proto-language and a small number of credible materials on the Hirtya language.
A basic Proto-Oronaic vocabulary, consisting of words for family members (mother, sister, son), body parts (head, heart, tooth, eye), nature objects(star, fire, water, stone, branch), basic verbs (go, live, fall, see, hear, know) and pronouns (I, you, who), numerals two and three, can be reconstructed, but many of these words lack regular phonetic correspondences due to a large timescale of the proto-language and a small number of credible materials on the Hirtya language.
The following is table of a few cognates across the Oronaic family, which can give the idea, how different languages developed and changed. In the table below only cognates are listed (without their translations - their meanings can be different from the meanings of the word in the proto-language). Only those words, which didn't change their meaning too much, are chosen down below ( for instance, ''тыхц'' (''tyhc'') in Hirtya actually means "thick ice layer", not just "ice". On the other hand, ''чунь'' (''čuń'') means "light snow" but it is a cognate to words for something that strews, like sand, in other languages).
{| border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse" cellpadding="3"
|-
! rowspan="2" style="background-color: #EFEFFF" | English
! rowspan="2" style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | Proto-Oronaic
! colspan="3" style="background-color: #fcdd80"| Alpian
! colspan="5" style="background-color: #b4f7f7"| Carpathian
! style="background-color: #eded6d"| Hirtian
|-
! style="background-color: #FF5015" | Baaye
! style="background-color: #FF9615" | North Vaand
! style="background-color: #FFBF00" | Vaand
! style="background-color: #80FF55" | West Carpathian
! style="background-color: #7AEFB5" | Prešov Carpathian
! style="background-color: #93ECC6" | Jīri Carpathian
! style="background-color: #B9E9EE" | East Carpathian
! style="background-color: #9FB5F4" | South Carpathian
! style="background-color: #DFDF20" | Hirtya
|-
| 'mother'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *ěmmè/*ěmbe
| emme || èmme || àmme
| emma || amma || emma || omma || ăma
| эмэни (emeni), эмбэ (embe)
|-
| 'water'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *c̺ec̺ä/*c̺äˀc̺ä
| tied || tzeed || tsääs
| siecä || šeače || šēče || šēče || šic
| сят (śat), цет (ćet)
|-
| 'ice'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | t̺akc̺ə<sub>3</sub>
| takke || takk || tauk
|  sēhca || šieču || šēča || šeači || šač
| тыхц (tyhc), сьыхц (śyhc), сьы (śy-)
|-
| 'fish'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *àsŋə<sub>2</sub>-n
| unche || anke || ange
| osne || osse || vosse || vošše || oskă
| ысcан (yssan), əcӈ- (əsŋ-)
|-
| 'frost'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *mur(ń)ə
| mon || more || mure
| mursi || murse || morse || morse || mon
| муунь (muuń)
|-
| 'head'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *bàˀjə<sub>3</sub>
| bude || bäde || bädi
| oiva || oivu || vojva || vojvi || oivă
| вуо’ (wuo’)
|-
| 'eye'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *gèri-ki
| gersch || gèrsch || geasch
| erkä || jorke || erke || jerke || gerki
| ыр (yr) ырх- (yrh-)
|-
| 'house/home'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *kodju
| kasch || kasch || –
| kōdu || kōlu || kōlo || kōje || koi
| квай (k<sup>w</sup>ai)
|-
| 'star'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *gooklu(j)
| guukl || goakkl || guokkel
| oalli || oallu || vuolla || vuolle || goilă
| кволь (k<sup>w</sup>oĺ)
|-
| 'bone'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *sääs̺kə<sub>1</sub>
| siesch || seets || säits
| – || – || – || – || seskĕ
| сэхв (sex<sup>w</sup>), сэт- (set-)
|-
| 'sand'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | '''tüün-i'''
| jön || jeune || jeune
| tuini || tini || tuini || tuine || tüni
| чунь (čuń)
|-
| 'mouse'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | s̺(j)iŋrə<sub>1</sub>
| – || – || –
| šīri || šiere || śiere || siere || sirĕ
| хиир (hiir), шэйəр (šejər)
|-
| 'moon'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | kööˀcü
| kös || keuze || keutze
| keahci || keace || kiehce || kiehče || köci
| сю’ə (śu’ə)
|-
| 'to live'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *wel-
| veln || welen || wellen
| ēli || ēlid || ēlahet || jēllat || elăd
| xэли (heli)
|-
|-
| 'to hear'
! style="background-color: #E0E0FF" | *(ní)jêl-
| dieln || delen || zellen
| īli || ielid || jēlet || jēlet || jilĕd
| ни’льи (ni’ĺi)
|-
|}
*Orthographical notes: The hacek denotes postalveolar articulation (⟨š⟩ [ʃ], ⟨č⟩ [t͡ʃ]) in Carpathian and Hirtian romanization. Palatal articulation is represented with an acute over a consonant (⟨ś⟩ [sʲ~ɕ], ⟨ć⟩ [tsʲ~tɕ], ⟨ń⟩ [nʲ~ɲ]). Long vowels are indicated with a macron (⟨ā⟩) in Carpathian or double letters elsewhere. In South Carpathian ⟨ĕ⟩ and ⟨ă⟩ represent reduced vowels [ɘ~ɜ] and [ə] respectively. In Alpian ⟨ts⟩ is for [t͡ʃ],⟨z⟩ and ⟨tz⟩ are for [t͡s], ⟨sch⟩ for [ʃ], ⟨è⟩ is for [ɤ] in North Vaand, ⟨à⟩ represents [a] in Vaand and ⟨a⟩ is [ɒ] in Alpian languages, ⟨eu⟩ is [œɪ] and ⟨ie⟩ is [iː] in Baaye, but [ɪe] in Vaand. ⟨y⟩ represents [ɨ] or [ɤ] which were once separate phonemes, but merged in the late XIXth century.
===Comparison===
===Comparison===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Feature
! style="background-color: #fcdd80"| Baaye !! style="background-color: #fcdd80"| Vaand
! style="background-color: #b4f7f7"| West Carpathian !! style="background-color: #b4f7f7"| East Carpathian !! style="background-color: #b4f7f7"| South Carpathian
!style="background-color: #eded6d"| Hirtya
|-align="center"
! Palatalization
| − || − || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Diphthongs
| + || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Voiceless/voiced<br/>distinction in stops
| + || + || − || − || + || ±<sup style="position: absolute">1</sup>
|-align="center"
! Vowel length
| + || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Consonant length
| −<sup style="position: absolute">2</sup> || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Consonant gradation
| − || −<sup style="position: absolute">3</sup> || + || + || + || ±<sup style="position: absolute">4</sup>
|-align="center"
! Grammatical vowel alternation<br/>([[w:Apophony|ablaut]])
| + || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Dual number
|  − || − || − || − || − || +
|-align="center"
! Distinction between<br/>inner and outer local cases
| − || − || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! [[w:Essive case|Essive case]]
| − || ±<sup style="position: absolute">5</sup> || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Article<br/>(marking of [[w:Definiteness|definiteness]])
| + || + || − || − || + || −
|-align="center"
! Passive voice
| − || − || − || − || − || −
|-align="center"
! Positive/negative<br/>verb distinction
| ±<sup style="position: absolute">6</sup> || ±<sup style="position: absolute">6</sup> || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! Verb-like suffixes
| + || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! [[w:Incorporation (linguistics)|Incorporation]]
| + || + || + || + || + || +
|-align="center"
! SVO word order
| + || + || ±<sup style="position: absolute">7</sup> || ±<sup style="position: absolute">7</sup> || ±<sup style="position: absolute">7</sup> || −
|}
Notes:
# usually grammatical voiced consonants can only be found in Komi and Russian loanwords. Otherwise they alter with respective voiced fricatives.
# the distinction was lost in the XIXth century, but is preserved in some transitional dialects to North Vaand.
# there are only qualitative consonant alterations, the quantitative gradation was lost in almost all the nouns, but preserves in verbs.
# the gramatical status of a consonant gradation in Hirtya is disputed. It may actually be explaned via assimilation of consonant clusters.
# the ''-kup'' suffix does not act like a real case in Vaand.
# obsolete. Some of these "negative" verbs have different meanings from their "positive" counterparts.
# the word order in Carpathian is free, however SOV for short sentences and SVO for long ones are the most common word orders.


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