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| Old English || Hƿæt! Ƿē Gār-Dena in geār‐dagum þēod‐cyninga þrym gefrūnon, hu ðā æðelingas ellen fremedon. | | Old English || Hƿæt! Ƿē Gār-Dena in geār‐dagum þēod‐cyninga þrym gefrūnon, hu ðā æðelingas ellen fremedon. | ||
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| Ravenish || hat! me hairdien | | Ravenish || hat! me hairdien yn {järdäh þeïdöökïnïngöön þrumjaz gafrëëgun, hwo þo aþulungoz aljanan framidëëdun} | ||
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| Pronunciation || | | Pronunciation || |
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Ravenish | |
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tiudisko | |
Pronunciation | [tiy̯.dis.kø] |
Created by | wfosøra |
Indo-European
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Early form | |
Ravenish (autoglossonym: tiudisko; Ravenish: [tiy̯.dis.kø) is a Germanic language, with strong influence from Finnish. It is the result of a prolonged contact among members of both groups after the Ravenish tribe migrated to the area that is now North Ostrobothnia. These connections slowly formed the modern language, which, under influence of Finnish for centuries, led to the innovation of several new forms, such as a conditional verb form and definiteness distinctions in nouns.
Introduction
Goals
- Fun
- Learn more Germanic
Setting
Inspiration
- Finnish
- Proto-Germanic
- My love for old Germanic languages
Summary of changes from Proto-Germanic
All case endings are fully dropped, Genitive and Dative are marked through affixes, nominative and accusative are marked through vowel harmony.
Etymology
The language name derives from the same source as German Deutsch, þiudiskaz. The English name is in reference to a cultural aspect of the people, their unusually large reverence for Ravens, they place an oddly high importance on Ravens even for a Germanic tribe.
Phonology
Orthography
IPA | Letter | |
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/ɑ, æ/ | a, ä | |
/d/ | d | |
/ɤ, e/ | e, ë | |
/f/ | f | |
/g/ | g | |
/h/ | h | |
/i/ | i | |
/j/ | j | |
/k/ | k | |
/l/ | l | |
/m/ | m | |
/n/ | n | |
/o, ø/ | o, ö | |
/p/ | p | |
/r/ | r | |
/s/ | s | |
/t/ | t | |
/u, y/ | u, y | |
/ʋ/ | v, b |
Consonants
Labial | alveolar /Palatal |
Velar /Glottal | |
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Nasal | m | n | (ŋ)¹ |
Stop | p | t, d | k |
Fricative | f | s | h |
Approximant | ʋ | l, j | |
Trill | r |
- allophone of /n/ before /k/
Vowels
front | back | |||
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unround | round | unround | round | |
close | i | y | u | |
mid | e | ø | ɤ | o |
open | æ | ɑ |
Prosody
Stress
Stress, like in PG, still lies solely on the first syllable unless prefixed, where stress moves with the root word.
Intonation
Phonotactics
Morphophonology
Grammar
Morphology
Take ALL forms with '?' with caution, the proto-Germanic form is unknown so this is me doing very, VERY basic comparisons to figure out a Possible form.
Pronouns
Nominative | |||
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first person |
singular | ik | |
plural | vir | ||
second person |
singular | tuu | |
plural | juur | ||
third person|third person |
singular | masculine | ir |
feminine | sii | ||
neuter | it | ||
plural | masculine | iir | |
feminine | ijaar | ||
neuter | ijo | ||
reflexive | se |
Nominative | |||
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first person |
singular | minä | |
plural | me | ||
second person |
singular | formal | Te |
familiar | sinä | ||
plural | te | ||
third person |
singular | hän | |
plural | he | ||
reflexive | se |
Gender marking has become relatively rare in everyday speech, while additional affixes for it do exist, they're treated as unnecessary unless the distinction is important to the given information.
Nouns
All stems merged under a stemless form marked with vowel harmony and suffixes, this greatly reduced system makes the grammar arguably simpler than an analytical system due to how severely basic the inflectional system is.
Grammatical | ||
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Nominative | - | |
Accusative | -/-n | |
Genitive | -n | |
Partitive | -(t)a/-(t)ä | |
Locative (internal) | ||
Inessive | -ssa/-ssä | |
Elative | -sta/-stä | |
Illative | -an, -en, etc... | |
Locative (External) | ||
Adessive | -lla/-llä | |
Ablative | -lta/-ltä | |
Allative | -lle | |
Essive | ||
Essive | -na/-nä | |
Translative | -ksi | |
Marginal | ||
Instructive | -n/-in | |
Abessive | -tta/-ttä | |
Comitative | -ne-/-në- |
Verbs
Verb declensions haven't changed much, the dual has fell out of use outside of formal situations, where even there it's rare, the dual is sometimes still used casually for couples, like 'they're walking together (as partners)' is {translation here}
Adjectives and Determiners
Adjectives and determiners use the same declension as nouns except a very small difference, an infixed '-i-', so 'rusty' would be '*rustiar' (actually 'rustag'), this has no etymological origin, instead being added as a countermeasure to keep nouns and adjectives from declining, and thus appearing, identical.
Adverbs
Numbers
Syntax
Constituent order
Noun phrase
Verb phrase
Sentence phrase
Dependent clauses
Example texts
Beowulf Sentence 1
Language | Sentence 1 of Beowulf |
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English | Indeed (or 'Yes!')! We of the Spear-Danes, in days old, had our great kings who discovered the glory of what that man's courage could do. |
Old English | Hƿæt! Ƿē Gār-Dena in geār‐dagum þēod‐cyninga þrym gefrūnon, hu ðā æðelingas ellen fremedon. |
Ravenish | hat! me hairdien yn {järdäh þeïdöökïnïngöön þrumjaz gafrëëgun, hwo þo aþulungoz aljanan framidëëdun} |
Pronunciation |