User:Aydın Baykara: Difference between revisions

Jump to navigation Jump to search
no edit summary
No edit summary
No edit summary
Line 788: Line 788:
|'''''That-clauses''(du):'''
|'''''That-clauses''(du):'''
|-
|-
|I suggested that Paul should eat an apple|| a fus.o du  Paul cdeno.k şer pa
|I suggested that Paul should eat an apple|| a fus.o du  Paul gdeno.k şer pa
|-
|-
|He recommends that you be careful||  u nor.e du  bece.k
|He recommends that you be careful||  u nor.e du  bece.k
Line 802: Line 802:
|'''''Necessity/must-modal-clauses:'''''
|'''''Necessity/must-modal-clauses:'''''
|-
|-
|I should be able to sleep (I ought to be able to sleep)|| a c.sabo.k dareş  
|I should be able to sleep (I ought to be able to sleep)|| a g.sabo.k dareş  
|-
|-
|'''''Hearsay-inferential'''''
|'''''Hearsay-inferential'''''
Line 811: Line 811:
|}
|}
=== IRREALIS in ABCL ===
=== IRREALIS in ABCL ===
Event (counterfactual) cannot occur anymore because the prior dependency, necessity  and condition set in the past, had not been fulfilled. Also an event cannot be realized in future  because the required condition for its realization could not be met. 
Irrealis are expressed in various world languages by modal verbs in past tense (as would, should, might), by modification of verb stem (Arabic: yaktubu-yaktuba), by adjectives, by conjunctives (if, that), by suitable verbs in subordinate clauses, by special particles and by suffixes to the verbs or by combinations of that.


'''ABCL considers two main irrealis''':
'''Examples for Irrealis:'''


1. Event is hypothetical, but possible, expressing: dependency, emotion, hopes, expectation, wish, desire, possibility, probability, likelihood, uncertainty, doubt, dubiousness, judgment, opinion, obligation, inferential (hearsay), not confirmed, necessity, imploring, asking, guessing, requiring, encouraging or action that has not yet occurred (present subjunctive)
Irrealis clauses are all irreal subjunctive events mostly with conditional (if-clauses) and other dependent sub clauses.  Unreality in this sinse is generally possible in past only (But there are cases for simple present too). Also hypothetical future events which cannot be realized because dependent conditions of other events in the past are not fulfilled, are included here.  There are also irrealis clauses with “hidden/not outspoken” dependencies. This item includes further unreal desires and wishes (I wish/ if only) and necessity/must cases (should) as well.
 
This events in ABCL will have “the contrafactual suffix –ç” added to the conjugated verb, indicating that all clauses with this verb suffix are irrealis past subconjunctive.  
2. Event (counterfactual) cannot occur anymore because the prior dependency, necessity  and condition set in the past, had not been fulfilled. Also an event cannot be realized in future  because the required condition for its realization could not be met.
 
Irrealis are expressed in various world languages by modal verbs in past tense (as would, should, might), by modification of verb stem, by adjectives, by conjunctives (if, that), by suitable verbs in subordinate clauses, by special particles and by suffixes to the verbs or by combinations of that.
Item 1 events will be expressed in real tenses of ABCL without the usage of any suffix, subjunctive modal and modification of the verb stem but with suitable adverbs, conjunction (mainly “am”=”that”in English), verbs in subordinate clauses and special particles. Irrealis/subjunctivity will be ensured by the suitable choice of these words.
 
 
'''Examples for Item 2 clauses:'''
 
Item 2 clauses are all irreal subjunctive events mostly with conditional (if-clauses) and other dependent sub clauses.  Unreality in this sense is possible in past only. Also hypothetical future events which cannot be realized because dependent conditions of other events in the past are not fulfilled, are included here.   
 
There are also irrealis clauses with “hidden/not outspoken” dependencies. This item includes further unreal desires and wishes (I wish/ if only) and necessity/must cases (should) as well.
Item 2 events in ABCL will have “the contrafactual suffix –ç” added to the conjugated verb, indicating that all clauses with this verb suffix are irrealis past subconjuntive.


{|
{|
|'''''If-clauses''':''
|'''''If-clauses''':''(Because the sub-ordinate clause is priorly, the tense of its verbs will be “ö” and “ü” respectively)
|-  
|-  
|If I had felt well (were I well/if I were well) I would have sung||||         if a bat.o (bab.o abü) a tak.o.ç  
|If I had felt well (were I well/if I were well) I would have sung|||| e a sevö (bab.o ani) a tiso 
|-   
|-   
|Would you have helped me if I had asked you ? ||||         jo fah.o.ç  a if a çat.o o?
|Would you have helped me if I had asked you ? ||||         jo feh.o.ç  a fe a çayö o?
|-  
|-  
|If I had been hungry, I would have eaten ||||                   if a dak.o (bab.o zex) a dek.e.ç  
|If I had been hungry, I would have eaten ||||             fe a dakö (bab.o ohu) a deno.ç  
|-  
|-  
|Without your help (hidden condition) I could not have finished it||||           oşx oz fah.ı a brem.ö.ç.x
|Without your help (hidden condition) I could not have finished it||||       nex oz feh.ha a b.rifo.çx
|-  
|-  
|If you would be my son...|||| if o bab.o.ç az salsa …  
|If you would be my son...|||| fe o babo.ç az salsa …
|-
|-
|'''''That-clauses:'''''
|'''''That-clauses:'''''
|-  
|-  
|My mother had suggested that I should have eaten an apple|||| az salya fuy.o am a (c)dek.eşerbe
|My mother had suggested that I should have eaten an apple|||| az salma fuso du  a gdenoşer pa
|-  
|-  
|I drunk so much, that my head would have almost  exploded.||||  a deb.ö oşö am az senbe çik.öuyu
|I drunk so much, that my head would have almost  exploded.||||  a didö fo oşu du  az sinha çozoah
|-  
|-  
|'''''Necessity/must-modal-clauses:'''''
|'''''Necessity/must-modal-clauses:'''''
|-  
|-  
|I should have been able to sleep (I ought to be able to sleep)|||| a büb.öbdar.ı
|I should have been able to sleep (I ought to be able to sleep)|||| a gsabodareş
|-  
|-  
|You should have attended the meeting yesterday  ||||    o çfup.opüspe üçi
|You should have attended the meeting yesterday  ||||    o gfatopösma et
|-  
|-  
|'''''Wish-clauses (incl. desiderative mood)''''':
|'''''Wish-clauses (incl. desiderative mood)''''':
|-  
|-  
|Only if I could have slept |||| ah if a bdar.o.ç …
|Only if I could have slept |||| an, a bdar.o.ç …
|-
|-
|I wish I had a car so that I hadn't got on the bus.|||| ah (a mih.e) a man.o.ç hunbe öyü am a yol.ox
|I wish I had a car so that I hadn't got on the bus.|||| an, (a biv.e) a baho vitka du  a rego.çx …
|-  
|-  
|I should have learned German |||| ah a dep.ö.ç Deutsch.sa
|I should have learned German |||| an, a g.bönö.ç Deutsch.sa
|-  
|-  
|'''''Future-clauses:'''''
|'''''Future-clauses:'''''
|-  
|-  
|I would have got fresh air outdoor if it had not rained this morning. ||||  a raf.aegi venşe oye.sin if venne ven.öx sa cemkü
|I would have got fresh air outdoor if it had not rained this morning. ||||  a s.regoofe venye em fe venre venö.çx osa cemmü
|}
|}


ABCL considers the subjunctive in subordinate clauses as not essential for the expression of intent of the speaker and omit it accordingly. For example:  Instead of the subjunctives "I suggest that you be careful", we can say "I suggest that you are careful" without losing the sense intended. “Suggest” implies that the case is “irrealis” even though from the grammatical point of view it is “real”.
ABCL considers the subjunctive in subordinate clauses as not essential for the expression of intent of the speaker and omit it accordingly. For example:  Instead of the subjunctives "I suggest that you be careful", we can say "I suggest that you are careful" without losing the sense intended. “Suggest” implies that the case is “irrealis” even though from the grammatical point of view it is “real”. If a subordinate clause implies beside conditionality also timely priority (such as with the “if”-clauses) the tenses “ö and ü” will be used instead of “o and u”.  
 
Also in case of inferential (indirect reported), not witnessed, doubted and not confirmed irrealis, such as “He said he was a physician” (German: Er sagte, er sei Arzt), the speaker can express his intention by telling it directly, i.e. he can say “He said he was a physician, but I cannot confirm it”. An adverbial auxiliary such as “allegedly or supposedly” would express the same circumstance. Also past subjunctive “He said he had no time” (German: Er sagte, er hätte keine Zeit) can be expressed the same way.  


Irrealis clauses with the past subjunctive can be replaced also with suitable adverbs such as “He has apparently been there” (er sei da gewesen ) and for the future as “He will assumably be there” (German: er werde da sein) 
'''Subconjunctive and irrealis: How far are they required? How are they in natlangs?'''


Turkish has a separate tense for inferentials: “O git.ti” translates “o git.miş”. If it were necessary, English constructions "he must have gone" or "he is said to have gone" would partly translate this Turkish inferential sentence. Even though it is very convenient to build the subjunctive by simply adding the suffix “–miş” to the verb root “git”, it must be learned by some effort. Instead of it I preferred also in such cases using direct real clauses with suitable phrases to cover the intent of the speaker. Here we would say: “I was told that he has gone” or better “He has allegedly gone.” Even though I defined the suffix “_m” for this case for Level 2.  (a bdur.o.m cemtü = I was able to fall asleep at midnight apparently (or as I was told next morning)=uyuyabil.miş.im
In case of inferential (indirect reported), not witnessed, doubted and not confirmed subjunctives, such as “He said he was a physician” (German: Er sagte, er sei Arzt), the speaker can express his intention by telling it directly, i.e. he can say “He said he was a physician, but I cannot confirm it”. An adverbial auxiliary such as “allegedly or supposedly” would express the same circumstance. Also past subjunctive “He said he had no time” (German: Er sagte, er hätte keine Zeit) can be expressed the same way. The past subjunctive can be replaced also with suitable adverbs such as “He has apparently/supposedly been there” (er sei da gewesen ) and for the future as “He will assumably be there” (er werde da sein)  Turkish has a separate tense for inferential: “O git.ti” translates “o git.miş”. If it were necessary, English constructions "he must have gone" or "he is said to have gone" would partly translate this Turkish inferential sentence. Even though it is very convenient to build the subjunctive by simply adding the suffix “–miş” to the verb root “git”, it must be learned by some effort. Instead of it I preferred also in such cases using direct real clauses with suitable phrases to cover the intent of the speaker. Here we would say: “I was told that he has gone” or better “He has supposedly gone.” Even though I defined the suffix “_v” for this case for Level 2.  (a bduro.v cemrü = I was able to fall asleep at midnight supposedly (or as I was told next morning)=uyuyabil.miş.im
 
Past subjunctive (irrealis) is also used to form the conditional tense (as Konjunktiv II in German with modal “würde”).  Grammatically/formally irrealis “I would not help him if I were you” can be transferred as “I do not help him if I am you” Here even though both phrases are real, with the meaning of the “conditional if…” it is implied that it is not real because in reality “I cannot be you”.            
Past subjunctive is also used to form the conditional tense (as Konjunktiv II in German with modal “würde”).  “I would not help him if I were you” can be transferred as “I do not help him if I am you” Here even though both phrases are real, with the meaning of the “conditional if…” it is implied that it is not real because in reality “I cannot be you”.
In French present and past subjunctives used mostly with verbs or adverbs. It is preceded by the conjunction que (that). In case of jussive: Il faut qu’il comprenne cela ("It is necessary that he understand that"), the “necessity” implies “the order” so that there is no need for the further subjunctive moods of the verbs. This idea has been also partially implemented in ABCL as already stated.  
           
In French present and past subjunctives used mostly with verbs or adverbs. It is preceded by the conjunction que (that). In case of jussive: Il faut qu’il comprenne cela ("It is necessary that he understand that"), the “necessity” implies “the order” so that there is no need for the further subjunctive moods of the verbs. This idea has been also implemented in ABCL as already stated.
Italian has also similar subjunctive setting, for example with credo che, è possibile che. I believe (that) she is the best (opinion).   
Italian has also similar subjunctive setting, for example with credo che, è possibile che. I believe (that) she is the best (opinion).   
Arabic : Indicative yaktubu "he writes / is writing / will write" → Subjunctive yaktuba "he may / should write" could be transfer in to “It is possible (that) he writes” and “it is required (that) he writes”.
Arabic : Indicative yaktubu "he writes / is writing / will write" → Subjunctive yaktuba "he may / should write" could be transfer in to “It is possible (that) he writes” and “it is required (that) he writes”.


'''Some examples of the means for transferring the English subjunctives in to other languages and ABCL by modifications:'''
'''Some examples of the means for transferring the subjunctives of other languages and English into modified format to be used by ABCL:'''
   
   
Optative :  "May I be loved!" transferred to “I wish that I will be loved”
Optative :  "May I be loved!" transferred to “I wish that I will be loved”
Line 900: Line 883:
Hortative :  "Let us love!" Eventive : "I would probably love you [if...]" as “I probably love you, if …..”
Hortative :  "Let us love!" Eventive : "I would probably love you [if...]" as “I probably love you, if …..”


== DECLINATION, FLEXION, MODALS/MOODS/MODUS ==
Eventive : "I would probably love you [if...]" as “I probably love you, if …..”


There are no gender, number and casus declination/flexion at all. Where necessary, gender may be identified by a corresponding noun/adjective. The casus will not be needed, also not all locative prepositions since the unambiguous verb itself normally implies the cases and the object is defined clearly by its position in the sentence. Only in case of complexity the preposition may be needed.
== MODAL VERBS, INFLEXIONS and MODUS in ABCL ==


ABCL has five modals:
There are no gender, number and casus declination/flexion at all. Where necessary, gender may be identified by a corresponding noun/adjective. The casus will not be needed, also no locative prepositions (in, at, to, from) since the unambiguous verb itself normally implies the cases and the object is defined clearly by its position in the sentence. Only in case of complexity the preposition may be needed.


b- can
'''Modal Verbs: ABCL has four real and one subjunctive modal verb as prefixes:'''


d- may
{|
|-
! Modus  ||ABCL Prefix||English Modal||Examples
|-
| Ability || b- || can || bdene - can eat
|-
| Possibility || d- || may || ddene – may eat
|-
| Necessity || g- || shall || gdene – shall eat
|-
| Obligation || ç- || must || çdene – must eat
|-
| Subjunctive|| s- || would || sdene/sdenö - would eat/ate-have eaten
|}
Example: A g.vap.e.p az hanka: I shall get my house painted.
They are placed as prefix to the verbs. Because this way a cluster emerges, in speaking only the first vowel of the verb repeats as gap filling and vowel harmony in between or soundless “ı” as convenient. The modals will not be conjugated and declined at all.
There are countless “verbal modus” in living World languages. Which often used in one language does not exist such as in another at all. If necessary, modus is expressed using particles and prepositions. For the first level we abandoned most of them, leaving a few where we think it easy to learn and nice to have them for good expression.
Possession is one, which “must be”, is formed by suffix “_z” and placed after nouns and pronouns. Plural “_i” is used as suffix also after nouns.
ABCL has in Level 1 nine verb features indicated by a particle marker and suffixes. Suffixes come after the conjugated verb but before any further suffix as “x” etc.


c- shall


ç- must


g- like
They are placed as prefix to the verbs. Because this way a cluster emerges, in speaking only the first vowel of the verb repeats as gap filling and vowel harmony in between or soundless “ı” as convenient. The modals will not be conjugated and declined at all.


There are countless “verbal modus” in living World languages. Which often used in one language does not exist such as in another at all. If necessary, modus is expressed using particals and prepositions. For the first level we abandoned most of them, leaving a few where we think it easy to learn and nice to have them for good expression.


Possession is one which “must be”, is formed by suffix “_z” and placed after nouns and pronouns. Plural “_i” is used as suffix also after nouns.


'''ABCL has in Level 1 nine verb features  indicated by partical marker and suffixes:  
'''ABCL has in Level 1 nine verb features  indicated by partical marker and suffixes:  

Navigation menu