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''' | The '''Talmic languages''' (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ ''TAHL-mik'', from [[Eevo]] ''Talma'' /ˈtʰãmə/, the name of a Talmic goddess; [[Eevo]]: ''britsa Talmiv''; [[Bhlaoighne]]: ''ngàtha dTalmamha''; [[Nurian]]: ''gaffar Tāmmar''; [[Roshterian]]: ''ṟoṟbitalmim'') are a family of languages spoken in the Talma ([[Eevo]] and most other Talman languages: ''Talma'', [[Nurian]]: ''Tāmai'' /ˈtˠaːmˠai/) region in [[Verse:Tricin/Etalocin|Etalocin]] in the planet of [[Verse:Tricin|Tricin]]. It is a subfamily of the [[Quihum languages]]. | ||
==Phylogeny== | |||
:† denotes languages that are extinct in modern Tricin. | |||
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==History of Talmic studies== | |||
===History of the term=== | |||
The Talmic family was referred to as the "''Cēm'' languages" (Eevo: ''brits Ceem'') in earlier Talman works, after the Thensarian word ''cēm'' for "one" inherited in all known Talmic languages at the time. After the discovery of other Quihum languages such as Sjowaazheñ, the definition expanded to other Quihum languages, until Proto-Quihum was reconstructed with more accuracy and the family was renamed Quihum (Eevo: ''brits Cvillym'' or ''hølltu Cvillym''). The designation ''Talmic'' (Eevo: ''Talmiv'') is now applied to the branch, after the name of the Talma region where most of the Talmic languages are native to. | |||
==Todo== | ==Todo== | ||
*''-nəm'' = patientive | *''-nəm'' = patientive |
Revision as of 05:16, 7 March 2018
The Talmic languages (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ TAHL-mik, from Eevo Talma /ˈtʰãmə/, the name of a Talmic goddess; Eevo: britsa Talmiv; Bhlaoighne: ngàtha dTalmamha; Nurian: gaffar Tāmmar; Roshterian: ṟoṟbitalmim) are a family of languages spoken in the Talma (Eevo and most other Talman languages: Talma, Nurian: Tāmai /ˈtˠaːmˠai/) region in Etalocin in the planet of Tricin. It is a subfamily of the Quihum languages.
Phylogeny
- † denotes languages that are extinct in modern Tricin.
Proto-Talmic |
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History of Talmic studies
History of the term
The Talmic family was referred to as the "Cēm languages" (Eevo: brits Ceem) in earlier Talman works, after the Thensarian word cēm for "one" inherited in all known Talmic languages at the time. After the discovery of other Quihum languages such as Sjowaazheñ, the definition expanded to other Quihum languages, until Proto-Quihum was reconstructed with more accuracy and the family was renamed Quihum (Eevo: brits Cvillym or hølltu Cvillym). The designation Talmic (Eevo: Talmiv) is now applied to the branch, after the name of the Talma region where most of the Talmic languages are native to.
Todo
- -nəm = patientive
- stan- = gather
- stannəm = gathering
- Eevo sdann = (mathematics) set
- ~ sta- in stāmom?
- stannəm = gathering
- add 0 grade, lengthened grade.
- -ssōs = another noun suffix
- 0 grade often > ə-grade but Cl, Cr > Cli-, Cri-
- lengthened grades: ā ī ū > ó ī ū
Phonology
Proto-Celtic gibberish with some added consonants and vowels
Consonants
Labial | Dental | Alveolar | Palatal | Velar | Labiovelar | Uvular | Labiouvular | Glottal | ||
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Nasal | *m | *n | ||||||||
Plosive | voiceless | *t | *k | *kʷ | *q | *qʷ | ||||
voiced | *b | *d | *g | *gʷ | ||||||
Fricative | voiceless | *ɸ | *θ | *s | *h | |||||
voiced | *δ | *ʁ | *ʁʷ | |||||||
Resonant | *l | *r | *y | *w |
Vowels
a e i o u ə ā ē ī ō ū
Diphthongs:
ai ei oi ui aw ew iw ow
Thensarian reflexes
- a e i o u ə > a e i o u y
- ō > ū in word-final syllables; ā elsewhere (gives too much aw in Eevo?)
- ou > ō
- oi > oe
- ui > ui
- ew > eo
- iw > iu
- ai, au > ae, ao
Morphology
Proto-Talmic was a fusional, head-initial language with a number system consisting of singulative, collective and plurative numbers. It had an ablaut system much like that of Indo-European.
Nouns
Masculine nouns
(Just one paradigm)
δoirom 'bird' | |||
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Singulative | Collective | Plurative | |
Absolute | δoirom | δeδoirom | δoirīs |
Construct | δoirai | δeδoirai | δoirinnə |
Possessed forms of δoirom - 'bird' | ||
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Number→ State↓ |
Singulative | Plurative |
Construct | δoirot | δoirinnət |
1sg possessor | δoiron | δoirinnən |
2sg.m possessor | δoirossi | δoirinnəssi |
2sg.f possessor | δoirossiu | δoirinnəssiu |
3sg.m possessor | δoirotiu | δoirinniu |
3sg.f possessor | δoirotī | δoirinnī |
3sg.n possessor | δoirota | δoirinna |
1exc possessor | δoirosmə | δoirinnəsmə |
1inc possessor | δoiroswi | δoirinnəswi |
2pl possessor | δoiroka | δoirinnəka |
3pl possessor | δoirotōr | δoirinnətōr |
Feminine nouns
gʷondā 'body' | |||
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Singulative | Collective | Plurative | |
Absolute | gʷondā | gegʷondā | gʷondār |
Construct | gʷondāt | gegʷondām | gʷondās |
Possessed forms of gʷondā - 'body' | ||
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Number→ State↓ |
Singulative | Plurative |
Construct | gʷondat | gʷondāsat |
1sg possessor | gʷondan | gʷondasan |
2sg.m possessor | gʷondassi | gʷondasassi |
2sg.f possessor | gʷondassiu | gʷondasassiu |
3sg.m possessor | gʷondatiu | gʷondasiu |
3sg.f possessor | gʷondatī | gʷondasī |
3sg.n possessor | gʷondata | gʷondasa |
1exc possessor | gʷondasmə | gʷondasasmə |
1inc possessor | gʷondaswi | gʷondasaswi |
2pl possessor | gʷondaka | gʷondaseka |
3pl possessor | gʷondatōr | gʷondasōr |
Neuter nouns
tektəs 'child' | |||
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Singulative | Collective | Plurative | |
Absolute | tektəs | tetektəs | tektəen |
Construct | tektəes | tetektəes | tektəer |
Possessed forms of tektəs - 'child' | ||
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Number→ State↓ |
Singulative | Plurative |
Construct | tektət | tektəerət |
1sg possessor | tektən | tektəerən |
2sg.m possessor | tektəssi | tektəerəssi |
2sg.f possessor | tektəssiu | tektəerəssiu |
3sg.m possessor | tektiu | tektəeriu |
3sg.f possessor | tektī | tektəerī |
3sg.n possessor | tektəta | tektəera |
1exc possessor | tektəsmo | tektəersmo |
1inc possessor | tektəswi | tektəerswi |
2pl possessor | tektəka | tektəerka |
3pl possessor | tektōr | tektəerōr |
jenaqʷs 'water' (n.) | |||
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Singulative | Collective | ||
Absolute | jenaqʷs | jenenaqʷs | |
Construct | jenaqʷes | jenenaqʷes |
stuφs 'fire' (n.) | |||
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Singulative | Collective | ||
Absolute | stuφs | stestuφs | |
Construct | stuφes | stestuφes |
Adjectives
Masculine:
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Neuter:
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Verbs
Object markers
Singular | Plural | |
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1 | in- | me- |
1 + 2 | - | twe- |
2 | ri- | ke- |
3 | bi- | be- |
TAM + subject markers
Collective subjects agree with singular (subject or object) verb affixes.
Root ablaut occurs in some stems in verbs and derived nouns. Ablauting verbs follow one of the patterns below (modulo compensatory lengthening); the present stem is in what is called the "a-grade" in Quihum linguistics, and the preterite stem has the "i-grade".
- present stem a - preterite stem e - VN a
- present stem ā - preterite stem ē - VN a
- present stem o - preterite stem i - VN ə
- present stem ō - preterite stem ī
- present stem ō - preterite stem ē
- present stem oi - preterite stem ei
- present stem ou - preterite stem iu
- present stem au - preterite stem eu
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Derivational morphology
Affixes
Some derivational affixes are:
- -nəm (n.) = patient suffix
- -ā- = verbalizer (from *-əx̌-; just for the Proto-Celtic gibbiness)
- What if *-əx̌- meant something else in PQuih?
- Roshterian -ia-/-i- - fossilized suffix in many verbs
- -ākos (n.) = verbal noun (from *-əx̌- verbalizer + *-kas = older VN suffix)
- Roshterian -iac
- -akt(V)- = adjectivizer
- Roshterian -ait
Ablaut patterns
Syntax
The emphatic particle *-is was commonly suffixed to the verb, as seen directly in Thensarian and the fact that Rostherian kept most verb affixes intact.