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The '''Talmic languages''' (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ ''TAHL-mik'') are a subfamily of the [[Quame languages]], spoken chiefly in the [[Talma]] and [[Bjeheond]] regions in the planet of [[Verse:Tricin|Tricin]]. Their last common ancestor is '''Proto-Talmic''' (Eevo: ''Ymá-Talmib''). | The '''Talmic languages''' (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ ''TAHL-mik'') are a subfamily of the [[Quame languages]], originally spoken chiefly in the [[Talma]] and [[Bjeheond]] regions in the planet of [[Verse:Tricin|Tricin]]. Their last common ancestor is '''Proto-Talmic''' (Eevo: ''Ymá-Talmib''). | ||
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Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch. | Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch. |
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The Talmic languages (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ TAHL-mik) are a subfamily of the Quame languages, originally spoken chiefly in the Talma and Bjeheond regions in the planet of Tricin. Their last common ancestor is Proto-Talmic (Eevo: Ymá-Talmib).
- PTal
- Q-Talmic (?)
- Proto-Tigol
- Nurian
- Modern Nurian, aka Shalaian
- P-Talmic (?)
- Qazhrian
- Roshterian (becomes head-initial via a different path than Tigol does)
- Q-Talmic (?)
Syntax
Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch.
Morphology
Pre-Tigol should keep the most inflections out of the Quame branches, so it was the worst language to Old Irishify
History of Talmic studies
History of the term
The Talmic family was referred to as the "Kwēm languages" (Skellan: brits Cłeem) in earlier Talman works, after the Thensarian word cēm for "one" inherited in all known Talmic languages at the time. After the discovery of other Quihum languages such as Naquian, the definition expanded to other Quihum languages, until Proto-Quihum was reconstructed with more accuracy and the family was renamed Quihum (Skellan: brits Cłillym or hølltu Cłillym). The designation Talmic (Skellan: Talmiv) is now applied to the branch, after the name of the Talma region where most of the Talmic languages are native to.
Todo
- -nəm = patientive
- sθan- = gather
- sθannəm = gathering
- Skellan sdann = (mathematics) set
- ~ sta- in stāmom?
- sθannəm = gathering
- add 0 grade, lengthened grade.
- -ssōs = another noun suffix
- 0 grade often > ə-grade but Cl, Cr > Cli-, Cri-
- lengthened grades: ā ī ū > ó ī ū
Phonology
Proto-Celtic gibberish with some added consonants and vowels
Consonants
Labial | Dental | Alveolar | Palatal | Velar | Labiovelar | Uvular | Labiouvular | Glottal | ||
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Nasal | *m | *n | ||||||||
Plosive | voiceless | *θ | *t | *k | *kʷ | *q | *qʷ | |||
voiced | *b | *δ | *d | *g | *gʷ | |||||
Fricative | voiceless | *ɸ | *s | *h | ||||||
voiced | *ʁ | *ʁʷ | ||||||||
Resonant | *l | *r | *y | *w |
The Talman dialects, which eventually became Tigol and Qazhrian, merged alveolar stops into dental stops, but Nurian and Roshterian keep the sounds distinct to this day.
Vowels
a e i o u ā ē ī ō ū
Diphthongs:
ai ei oi ui aw ew iw ow
Thensarian reflexes
- a e i o u ə > a e i o u y
- ō > ū in word-final syllables; ā elsewhere (gives too much aw in Skellan?)
- ou > ō
- oi > oe
- ui > ui
- ew > eo
- iw > iu
- ai, au > ae, ao
Derivational morphology
Affixes
Some derivational affixes are:
- -nəm (n.) = patient suffix
- -ā- = verbalizer (from *-əx̌-; just for the Proto-Celtic gibbiness)
- What if *-əx̌- meant something else in PQuih?
- Roshterian -ia-/-i- - fossilized suffix in many verbs
- -ākos (n.) = verbal noun (from *-əx̌- verbalizer + *-kas = older VN suffix)
- Roshterian -iac
- -akt(V)- = adjectivizer
- Roshterian -ait
Ablaut patterns
Syntax
The emphatic particle *-is was commonly suffixed to the verb.
Gibberish
φīxs φaro δlankeweti snībou Gwnāmesor δe φīna qrādomāxtim. Gwonyantis nayesi smā-deuφrimor briqennās kardaswei wli φasminō.