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The '''Talmic languages''' (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ ''TAHL-mik'') are a subfamily of the [[Quame languages]], originally spoken chiefly in the [[ | The '''Talmic languages''' (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ ''TAHL-mik'') are a subfamily of the [[Quame languages]], originally spoken chiefly in the [[Bitaleta]] region in the planet of [[Verse:Tricin|Tricin]]. | ||
* | * PET | ||
** | ** Talmic | ||
*** [[ | *** [[Tigol]] | ||
**** [[ | **** [[Eevo]] | ||
**** [[Anbirese]] | |||
**** Ciètian | |||
== Syntax == | == Syntax == | ||
Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch. | Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, like Irish, Welsh and Southeast Asian languages, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch. | ||
== Morphology == | == Morphology == | ||
Pre-Tigol should keep the most inflections out of the Quame branches, so it was the worst language to Old Irishify | Pre-Tigol should keep the most inflections out of the Quame branches, so it was the worst language to Old Irishify | ||
Proto-Talmic also had no inclusive vs exclusive we distinction; Tigolic and Qazhric gained the distinction under the influence of Lakovic. | |||
==History of Talmic studies== | ==History of Talmic studies== | ||
===History of the term=== | ===History of the term=== | ||
The Talmic family was referred to as the "''Kwēm'' languages" ( | The Talmic family was referred to as the "''Kwēm'' languages" (Scellan: ''brits Cłeem'') in earlier Talman works, after the Thensarian word ''cēm'' for "one" inherited in all known Talmic languages at the time. Since contact with other Quihum languages such as [[Naquian]], the term Quame is used for the family that includes Talmic and Naquian. | ||
==Todo== | ==Todo== | ||
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** 0 grade often > ə-grade but Cl, Cr > Cli-, Cri- | ** 0 grade often > ə-grade but Cl, Cr > Cli-, Cri- | ||
**lengthened grades: ā ī ū > ó ī ū | **lengthened grades: ā ī ū > ó ī ū | ||
Change 1pl.ex from m to b | |||
==Phonology== | ==Phonology== | ||
Proto-Celtic gibberish with some added consonants and vowels | Proto-Celtic gibberish with some added consonants and vowels | ||
===Consonants=== | ===Consonants=== | ||
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The Talman dialects, which eventually became Tigol and Qazhrian, merged alveolar stops into dental stops, but Nurian and Roshterian keep the sounds distinct to this day. | The Talman dialects, which eventually became Tigol and Qazhrian, merged alveolar stops into dental stops and completely lost *φ, but Nurian and Roshterian keep the sounds distinct to this day under Idavic influence. | ||
===Vowels=== | ===Vowels=== | ||
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Diphthongs: | Diphthongs: | ||
ai ei oi ui | ai ei oi ui au eu iu ou | ||
==Derivational morphology== | ==Derivational morphology== | ||
===Affixes=== | ===Affixes=== | ||
Some derivational affixes are: | Some derivational affixes are: | ||
*''- | *''-nam'' (n.) = patient suffix | ||
*''-ā-'' = verbalizer (from ''*-əx̌-''; just for the Proto-Celtic gibbiness) | *''-ā-'' = verbalizer (from ''*-əx̌-''; just for the Proto-Celtic gibbiness) | ||
**What if ''*-əx̌-'' meant something else in PQuih? | **What if ''*-əx̌-'' meant something else in PQuih? | ||
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The emphatic particle {{recon|''-is''}} was commonly suffixed to the verb. | The emphatic particle {{recon|''-is''}} was commonly suffixed to the verb. | ||
== Gibberish == | == Gibberish == | ||
φīxs φaro | φīxs kʷēmos φaro δlanγeweti δe srībou γʷnāmesor δe φīna qrādomāxtim. γonyanθis wli nayesi, smā-deuφrimor briqennās bakū kardasweis wli φasminō. Sθām lugyeθais wli bosqōr kʷisδalābis, kas φaxθīm φar woltāyessis-do, bar Bouγʷātlom wli qaswīqis. Nai brāyos δe nenmōrus skʷedoxtānis! φirwōd φēs-naxθitor qetibāti meudyūs! Φosnīdyōr daγʷāi δe nosθenqʷētās qʷlāwītor. | ||
[[Category:Tricin]][[Category:Talmic languages|*]] | [[Category:Tricin]][[Category:Talmic languages|*]] | ||
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The Talmic languages (/ˈtɑːlmɪk/ TAHL-mik) are a subfamily of the Quame languages, originally spoken chiefly in the Bitaleta region in the planet of Tricin.
Syntax
Although all present-day Talmic languages are rigidly head-initial, like Irish, Welsh and Southeast Asian languages, Proto-Talmic was much less so; we know this because different constructions and function words (such as prepositions and verbal morphology) fossilized in each Talmic subbranch.
Morphology
Pre-Tigol should keep the most inflections out of the Quame branches, so it was the worst language to Old Irishify
Proto-Talmic also had no inclusive vs exclusive we distinction; Tigolic and Qazhric gained the distinction under the influence of Lakovic.
History of Talmic studies
History of the term
The Talmic family was referred to as the "Kwēm languages" (Scellan: brits Cłeem) in earlier Talman works, after the Thensarian word cēm for "one" inherited in all known Talmic languages at the time. Since contact with other Quihum languages such as Naquian, the term Quame is used for the family that includes Talmic and Naquian.
Todo
- -nəm = patientive
- sθan- = gather
- sθannəm = gathering
- Skellan sdann = (mathematics) set
- ~ sta- in stāmom?
- sθannəm = gathering
- add 0 grade, lengthened grade.
- -ssōs = another noun suffix
- 0 grade often > ə-grade but Cl, Cr > Cli-, Cri-
- lengthened grades: ā ī ū > ó ī ū
Change 1pl.ex from m to b
Phonology
Proto-Celtic gibberish with some added consonants and vowels
Consonants
| Labial | Dental | Alveolar | Palatal | Velar | Labiovelar | Uvular | Labiouvular | Glottal | ||
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| Nasal | *m | *n | ||||||||
| Plosive | voiceless | *θ | *t | *k | *kʷ | *q | *qʷ | |||
| voiced | *b | *δ | *d | *g | *gʷ | |||||
| Fricative | voiceless | *ɸ | *s | [x] | [χ] | *h | ||||
| voiced | *γ | *γʷ | ||||||||
| Resonant | *l | *r | *y | *w | ||||||
The Talman dialects, which eventually became Tigol and Qazhrian, merged alveolar stops into dental stops and completely lost *φ, but Nurian and Roshterian keep the sounds distinct to this day under Idavic influence.
Vowels
a e i o u ā ē ī ō ū
Diphthongs:
ai ei oi ui au eu iu ou
Derivational morphology
Affixes
Some derivational affixes are:
- -nam (n.) = patient suffix
- -ā- = verbalizer (from *-əx̌-; just for the Proto-Celtic gibbiness)
- What if *-əx̌- meant something else in PQuih?
- Roshterian -ia-/-i- - fossilized suffix in many verbs
- -ākos (n.) = verbal noun (from *-əx̌- verbalizer + *-kas = older VN suffix)
- Roshterian -iac
- -akt(V)- = adjectivizer
- Roshterian -ait
Ablaut patterns
Syntax
The emphatic particle *-is was commonly suffixed to the verb.
Gibberish
φīxs kʷēmos φaro δlanγeweti δe srībou γʷnāmesor δe φīna qrādomāxtim. γonyanθis wli nayesi, smā-deuφrimor briqennās bakū kardasweis wli φasminō. Sθām lugyeθais wli bosqōr kʷisδalābis, kas φaxθīm φar woltāyessis-do, bar Bouγʷātlom wli qaswīqis. Nai brāyos δe nenmōrus skʷedoxtānis! φirwōd φēs-naxθitor qetibāti meudyūs! Φosnīdyōr daγʷāi δe nosθenqʷētās qʷlāwītor.