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* You leave messages in any language you see fit; that is, languages I have a chance at understanding.
* You leave messages in any language you see fit; that is, languages I have a chance at understanding.


<div style="margin-top: 1em; padding-top: 0.3em; font-size: 80%; border-top: 1px solid #3E3E3E;">'''Archives''' [[User talk:Waahlis/1|1]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/2|2]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/3|3]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/4|4]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/5|5]]</div></div>
<div style="margin-top: 1em; padding-top: 0.3em; font-size: 80%; border-top: 1px solid #3E3E3E;">'''Archives''' [[User talk:Waahlis/1|1]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/2|2]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/3|3]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/4|4]] · [[User talk:Waahlis/5|5]] - Updated 2013-07-15</div></div>


=='''AntiSpamHQ'''==
== Front page ==
And since this appears to be the Anti-Spambot Combat HQ I thought I'd update you guys with some details regarding our new captcha system. It's practically infinitely extensible as it consists of asking people to answer a simple question when they register. If one question is cracked, we can add new ones. I'm also looking into some tools that let you limit the allowed usernames on site (I'd guess eliminating numbers from usernames would result in a lot less spambots) while being only a mild, if any, inconvenience to any real user. [[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 09:01, 26 April 2013 (CEST)
 
I love the new front page, its awesome! [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 08:11, 14 July 2013 (CEST)
 
I agree! It looks simpler and cleaner. Keep up the good work! [[User:Newrhotic|Newrhotic]] ([[User talk:Newrhotic|talk]]) 01:29, 15 July 2013 (CEST)
 
 
Thanks, both of you! Any criticism? I have no problems to improve it continuously! Sincerely, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   15:53, 15 July 2013 (CEST)
 
Agreed! The new front page is freaking awesome! You're awesome! --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 23:00, 18 July 2013 (CEST)
 
Let's not exaggerate! :P Do tell if you need me to change anything. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  00:46, 21 July 2013 (CEST)
 
==Cwengâr&Fén Ghír==
 
The pages for these two languages on my computer do not have a side or top bar and cut off before the end [specifically at "vowels" and "ba" respectively], other language pages seem to be working fine. Could you look into this for me?
 
-Cheers, [[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 00:53, 18 July 2013 (CEST)
 
 
Of course, I'll look into it. However, I don't quite grasp the problem? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   16:20, 18 July 2013 (CEST)
 
I should have gotten a screen grab but it seems to have resolved itself. If you're interested, just incase this is a recurring error;
 
*The main page itself was the only thing visible; the side bar [Mainpage, Announcements, Recent Changes... Toolbox, Other], tabs [Mainpage, Discussion, Read, Edit... Go, Search] and top bar [My Talk, My Preferences, My Watchlist... etc] were simply blank; there was no visible text or anything where they should have been.


Remove the numbers, we just got one again [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 13:22, 26 April 2013 (CEST)
*The end of the page also cut off; nothing after certain sections were accessible and the browser treated it as if the page ended there in the middle of the article, not allowing me to scroll further down; thus the Category section was not accessible.  


Didn't work, add more questions, many more. May I suggest somes? ----(Zelos)
*Attempting to link to the areas cut off from the navigation box or using ctrl+f to find a word would give no response [or no result in the case of ctrl+f], though the navigation box would link me directly to the parts of the article as it would normally on other pages.


Hasn't happened to me before on any other forums so I suspect it may have been an error with Linguifex, possibly due to my trying to access these pages through history or favourites? Either way, it is resolved now.


No, it appears it didn't. :/ What is your current question, Chrys? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  20:01, 26 April 2013 (CEST)
-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 15:23, 21 July 2013 (CEST)


"Type in the word, glottalstop" [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 17:25, 28 April 2013 (CEST)


:I suspect we're being targeted by spambots with manual regs, i.e. they outsource questions/captchas to people that speak English,who for a pittance of cash answer them, and then bots go apeshit with spamming. Sigh. At least I think we're past the auto-reg bots. As can be seen from the registration times this has slowed down a tad.
Hmm, I haven't experienced anything similar. Have you encountered it more than once? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  12:40, 24 July 2013 (CEST)


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:It's no longer five accounts on the exact same minute. Anyhow, looking into account approval extension. [[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 20:34, 29 April 2013 (CEST)
I want to create a completely new language to use while I work on my Germanic conlang. I want it to be totally unrelated to any living languages but still go with the old European Nominative-Accusative fusional deal. The thing is, I want to make it so it seems to flow easily and look good/beautiful when written. Do ye have any ideas for this and maybe any notable alphabets or ideas to create a constructed script? --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 01:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


I don't see why they would target us, tehre is not enough traffic to really justify it. [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 06:24, 30 April 2013 (CEST)
And I'm not just talking about visually flowing, but I mean it could just roll off the tongue like a delicious smoothy of sorts :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 01:41, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


I don't think they base their targets on traffic. They just want more links to their pages, doesn't matter how. The registration system worked fine though, having inaugurated it myself! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  12:04, 1 May 2013 (CEST)
Try a hawaiian esque free vowel no dipthong system, but replace all stops with a lot of taps, trills, nasals, and approximants like you see in Indian languages. Add tone to give it a songlike quality.
As for the writing system, look at the alphabets of southern india, they were written on palm leaves which would rip if the script was too rough. Also make all your sounds voiced, voiceless sounds interrupt the hum of speech.
Of course, I'm defining flow as sounds which do not interrupt the hum of voiced speech. You might not actually know what what you want when you think of something so subjective as how a language "rools of the tongue", in which case, you are the only one who can decide.


[[User:Greatbuddha|Greatbuddha]] ([[User talk:Greatbuddha|talk]]) 08:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


==Language de qualité==
Hey, thanks for the great insight! I'll definitely check out the Hawaiian speech and southern Indian script. I hadn't thought of the voicing and I don't really know what tone is but I'll definitely look into it, and yeah that is quite subjective I s'pose :p Thanks! --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 09:58, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


Y-at-il un projet pour faire revivre le "langage de qualité"? Ou quelque chose comme un "défi à traduire"? Je suis passé par CALS et j'ai traduit près que tous leur challenge, mais ça commence à me faire ennuyer.


De plus, pourriez-vous regardez et faire critique de Fén Ghír comme vous avez fait avec Umbrean?
Greatbuddha makes a few great points. My personal trick for this is to try to imitate an orthography of a language that I really like, be it a conlang or natlang, and make a completely different grammar. Think of it as a car, you paint it, add a few features, but under the bonnet, no one grasps its complexity!


- --[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 04:59, 5 May 2013 (CEST)
I'd say you should do this: Take a shorter text and then semi-translate it into a few different sketchlangs, all of them with different orthographies and phonologies, then see which one you like the best, or mix them up! Hope it helps at all, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  21:36, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


Sounds like a plan! In my conworld it's supposed to be a sort of language of the angels so that's what I'm looking for. :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 00:47, 27 July 2013 (CEST)


Mais ouis, nous seulement devons contrôler les règles et la procédure! J'ai importé quelque [[:Category:Translations|textes]].
== ¡Hola, guapetón! ==


Bien sure, si tu voudrais. Mais je suis très franc! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   12:48, 5 May 2013 (CEST)
Hola, chicote, ¿cómo andas? No nos sentimos desde hace tiempo. Te escribo para dejarte un recado: dentro de dos días me marcho a Alemania para hacer un curso avanzado de alemán, vuelvo el 31 de augusto, entonces no creo que nos vamos a hablar hasta aquel día :(
He aprobado el test de sueco con 86/100 puntos y ahora tengo uficialmente un nivel B1 de lengua sueca, ¡todavía no lo creo!
Tú, ¿qué me cuentas? ¿Vacaciones? ¿Viajes? Te doy un gran abrazo y hasta pronto :) [[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llais</span>]]''' 20:39, 28 July 2013 (CET)


Ah, très bien. Je les ferai bientôt.


Mais, je sais pas comment vous pourriez me offenser. À mon avis, ma page a l'air de manque quelque chose et je veux seulement savoir quoi.
¡Hola! Ando bien, como siempre. :)  ¡Felicidades, lo mereces! :D Vale, te estaré esperando. Espero que lo pases bomba; he oido que el tiempo en Alemania hace extremadamente bien.
Jajaja, mis vacaciones terminan dentro de pronto, y después vuelvo al instituto para continuar mis estudios. :)


Et merci pour en commencer avec les nominations pour langage de qualité,  
¡Un gran abrazo a ti también! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  12:28, 31 July 2013 (CEST)


--[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 21:59, 5 May 2013 (CEST)
== Voting ==


Can I nominate a language to be featured which I feel to be sufficiently complete but without the featured banner translated yet? [[User:Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd|Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd]] ([[User talk:Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd|talk]]) 05:16, 13 August 2013 (CEST)


Ne t'inquiète pas, je n'ai pas l'intention de t'offenser! Et de rien. Je vais commencer une suggestion concernant les traductions bientôt. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   17:38, 6 May 2013 (CEST)
As long as you can translate the banner and does it, yes [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 11:55, 13 August 2013 (CEST)


Ah, I'm worried my meaning might have gotten lost in the translation; I meant to say "I don't know how I could be offended by it"; judging by how you looked over Zelos' page, your criticism seems concise and constructive so honesty is an asset. I posted the request after doing some major page repairs and I have a couple other fixes in mind so I'm not overly attached to any terminology or the lay out particularly. Judging by the above and a mention in the forums, I suspect you're going to suggest adding a Liepzig gloss? I've looked over the manual again earlier and will be free to add one to the example phases soon.
That wouldn't be necessary. A nomination doesn't really need the translation banner. But it won't pass the voting round without the banner. :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   19:40, 17 August 2013 (CEST)


Thanks for adding my translation to the mainpage,
== Välyatalle etymologies ==


--[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 22:06, 6 May 2013 (CEST)
From [[Välyatalle/Etymologies]] I present you with
:{{Ast}}kaʔlʲaśa: Va. ''kaalas'' "party, celebration"; Elas. ''kályaz'' "dance".
: *chuckles* --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 03:04, 30 August 2013 (CEST)


== Featuredlang ==
==Congradulations==


Think it is time for it?
Congrats on usurping my title as featured language. However mark my words that a Sphaeran language will return! You haven't seen the last of Galavic on the front page. Maaaaaaaark my wooooorrrrrddddddddds!


[[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 13:26, 5 May 2013 (CEST)
Sincerely though; congrats on the election,


Cheers,


I think we'll never get to it if don't start. You get things done by working on them coninuously.
[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 03:35, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


Let's do this! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  13:28, 5 May 2013 (CEST)


LET'S ROCK AND ROOOOOLL! [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 15:55, 5 May 2013 (CEST)
Mehe, ''The Usurper'' does have a certain ring to it...! But when it returns, believe me, then the Ris and Rana languages will be prepared! I shall mark your words with Indian ink if that's what it'll take! ^^And thank you, it was nail-biting in the end! Sincererly, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   10:42, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


== Translated Mainpage ==
Congratulations indeed! ''Neym rope hat ahezinimy nik napek phorik!'' "I'm happy that your language was featured!" [[User:Juhhmi|Juhhmi]] ([[User talk:Juhhmi|talk]]) 11:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


Hey, I saw the blank conlang translations at the bottom of the Mainpage and I took some initiative with my own, which is completed [except for the content of bars] [[Main_Page/Fén_Ghír| here]].
''*mutters in high front/back vowels, rounded and unrounded with lots of geminate consonants*'' Vahalya cometh! --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 11:30, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


Could you put it up for me?
Congratulations! [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 11:41, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 04:27, 6 May 2013 (CEST)
''Ie ham ganalkáltiji themsármȁ!'' And don't underestimate Themsaran! [[User:Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd|Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd]] ([[User talk:Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd|talk]]) 19:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


''Dônalh Cwengâr 'ongŷgw gwô ôrha ngâr ngàr ô ffetam ât hôrha rŷnobanaff... cwê ugwôn!'' Cwengaer will crush your languages underfoot and burn your writings... eventually!--[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 03:16, 2 September 2013 (CEST)


Absolutely. Just a second. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  18:38, 6 May 2013 (CEST)


== Nomination ==
Thank you! I'm sure all of you will outperform me! ^^ Let's just avoid multicultural war. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  18:13, 2 September 2013 (CEST)


Hej, hur mår du? Allt bra? Jag hoppas det :) Jag skriver till dig för att säga att jag har översatt "bannern". Hur kan jag infoga den i voterigens sida? Min översättning finns i "Aarlaansk-sidan". Tack så mycket :) [[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llyn</span>]]'''  16:49, 06 May 2013 (CET)
== First Linguifex Relay ==
Tag, you're it! You can find the torch [[First Linguifex Relay/Harākti|here]]! Have fun. :)


Jag mår utmärkt, tackar som frågar! Själv? Bra, jag har flyttat översättningen till forumsidan. Och vi säger bara "votering" om det rör en votering i riksdagen. Annars är det en "omröstning". :) Prego! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   17:30, 6 May 2013 (CEST)
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Tack för korrigeringen, nu har du lärt mig en ny sak på svenska. Jag studerar mycket, eftersom jag måste göra Swedex-tentan den 3:e i juni :)
Du är alltid jättesnäll med mig, "en riktig riddare" (säger man här i Italien) :) Hej så länge! [[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llyn</span>]]'''  19:52, 06 May 2013 (CET)


== Arena ==


Tack så mycket! Detsamma! :) Och jag läste vad du skrev innan din ändring i meddelandet, och vi får väl se...! Lycka till! Jag vet ju inte vad Swedex går ut på, men du klarar det säkert galant!
I can't create new threads here. Should we get the ball rolling on this? -[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 22:52, 16 September 2013 (CEST)


[[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  10:55, 11 May 2013 (CEST)


P.S. Snäll "mot" ;) D.S


Tack så mycket :) Jag hoppas det också :) Jag ska låta dig veta :) [[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llyn</span>]]'''  14:35, 11 May 2013 (CET)
Sorry, that's from when I thought it was supposed to be a relay forum! I shall change it right away! By the way, I won't be very active here for about a week; I am currently writing the Second Linguifex Relay, and reconstructing a proto-language of mine! ^^ [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  23:15, 16 September 2013 (CEST)


== Discussion ==
Then as tempting as it may be, I won't usurp you with [[User:Fauxlosophe/Cwengâr| my own already finished text]] until after but I do have a few good ideas for other things we could do in the meantime. I'll put them up soon-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 06:56, 17 September 2013 (CEST)


Hey Wallstreet, how about we great a discussion between two people to give something to translate? [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 15:32, 7 May 2013 (CEST)
Let's decide that's the third one then! And please, go ahead! Message all the people you want there or ask Chrys to make cross-wiki announcement! I shall try to participate, myself. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   07:45, 17 September 2013 (CEST)


I put up a few threads, the proverb one was specifically with you in mind. I've got a few proverbs in Fén that I'm happy with but you've got some catered perfectly for your language. Check out the rest as well!-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 23:35, 25 September 2013 (CEST)


Sounds like an interesting idea. Maybe on dA, if so? Bit easier to communicate. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  10:56, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
== The Comlang ==


==FeaturedLang==
Are we going to finish it? Or do you want to start a new one? (Or not do a comlang at all?)


Glad to know you guys are finally doing this! I think it'll help everyone (me included) to get fired up and do some conlanging. Heck yes. [[User:Newrhotic|Newrhotic]] ([[User talk:Newrhotic|talk]]) 00:18, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
I don't really care, I was just look forward to all the linguistic experience probably it'd give me.  
<br/>[[User:Conlang|CL]][[User_talk:Conlang|<sup>/ˈ'''t'''ɔk ˈpeɪdʒ/</sup>]] 23:42, 9 October 2013 (CEST)


== Neghal díril ==


Glad you agree! Yes, we need to get kicking around here! It's not all done, but it will be in the end! Don't forget to vote or nominate! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  10:57, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
Cíné me ít. Té re ba fhaben cur bhoci!


== Examples ==
[[Second Linguifex Relay/Fén Ghír|Tel té bér cór re.]]


[[Umbrean/Examples]]
--[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 05:27, 25 November 2013 (CET)


Whatcha think? [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 18:52, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
PS. This relay reminded me of how much I love Fén and why. It just sounds so pretty next to the near inpenetrable and unpronouncable Cwengâr.


That looks excellent! Although I would recommend you to format the Umbrean text and the English one differently. Umbrean in bold, for example. I trust they are to be inserted on the Umbrean page? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  10:58, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
== Alska Reversion ==


Linked, not inserted. It gets ugly if you ask me. [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 11:49, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
Why was Alska reverted to how it was before?  I'm going through and updating/remaking the language. Just wondering [[User:Darthme|Darthme]] ([[User talk:Darthme|talk]]) 21:21, 30 November 2013 (CET)


Hmmm... I disagree... As you probably know...! :P [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  14:28, 11 May 2013 (CEST)


I know :P But I am a seperatist, I prefre having shit seperated and neatly, grammar on one page, examples on another [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 17:24, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
Oh, my dear bloody God! What have I done!? I'm so sorry, I'm on my tablet when browsing the site nowadays, I must've mistakenly reverted your edits! Have you fixed it, or shall I do it in the morning?


== Little favor ==
Pardon me, most sincerely, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  00:37, 1 December 2013 (CET)


Hi Waahlis, could you do me a little favor and have a look at [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr/Prufzytī|this page]]? My knowledge of linguistics is rather poor, so I'm not sure how those forms are called in English. [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 11:32, 11 May 2013 (CEST)


No it's fine, I reverted it again.  For a moment I freaked out but the I remembered there was a changelog for each page, so I just set it back to how I had it. It's all good, so no worries. :) [[User:Darthme|Darthme]] ([[User talk:Darthme|talk]]) 11:18, 1 December 2013 (CET)


Of course, doing favours is why I'm here!  
I'm ever so sorry! :P It shan't happen again! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  11:21, 1 December 2013 (CET)


Let's see, you're Dutch, right? What would you call them in your native language? I'll see if I can translate first:
== Next Relay ==
* Bassform: ''Dē jaggter '''sgit''' dē konin.'' - The hunter shoots the rabbit. - '''Present tense'''
* Trʉgtytform: ''Dē jaggter '''sgiti''' dē konin.'' - The hunter shot the rabbit. '''Past tense''' (or '''preterite/imperfect''')
* Giyntnē form: ''Dē jaggter heppt dē konin '''gisgit'''. ''- The hunter has shot the rabbit. - '''Perfect tense''' (or '''present retrospective''')
* Byform: ''Dē jaggter will dē konin '''sgitē'''.'' (''"Dē jaggter will '''sgit''' dē konin" iss aug a kunnighyt'') - The hunter will shoot the rabbit. - '''Future tense'''
* Nuig zeggform: Dē '''sgitnē''' jaggter iss inn dē boss.'' - The shooting hunter is in the woods/bushes. - '''Present participle'''
* Trʉgig zeggform: ''Dē '''gisgitnē''' konin iss dot.'' - The shot rabbit is dead. - '''Past participle'''


That should be about right. If I translated correctly.
I have the text ready for the next relay as of ages ago. Chrys has volunteered to be the first victim as his conlang shares a few similarities to mine and will make the transition a little easier. As soon as you're ready to start collecting volunteers, I'm able to assemble a gloss.


Sincerely, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  14:27, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
Also when are we doing the next featured language?


You got it all right except the (somewhat illogical) byform, that sentence means "The hunter wants to shoot the rabbit", though "The hunter will shoot the rabbit" could also take a byform. It can also be used in some clauses, but in most cases it can be replaced by a sentence with a slightly different word order and a bassform. [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 14:50, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
Slán,


I just figured it followed a common Germanic trait using "will" to form the future tense! (In Swedish, we'd use the same construction as above, so it was 50/50 chance). Okay, something like a optative mood in the present with a modal verb then! I am not sure if I have helped you, or if this was a test though! :P [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  16:16, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 07:08, 13 December 2013 (CET)


You have surely helped me, although I'm not sure about the ''byform''. Anyway, thank you for your help! [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 16:53, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
:On behalf of Waahlis (and indeed, all Swedes), I apologise for the tardy response. December 13 is Lucia day in Sweden where we celebrate the memory of light, warmth and sacrifice in the midst of seemingly everlasting darkness and cold with sweet saffron-buns and cookies. Furthermore, I am would like to inquire about which language specifically you have in mind? None of my languages are as analytic as yours :P And, I have a new pet project, at [[User:Chrysophylax/Skājamāl]], which I'd love to use in the next relay if that's fine. It's YAIEL (Yet Another Indo-European Conlang) like [[Dhannuá]] so it shouldn't be too far removed grammatically in general terms, if you want to know what to expect. --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Χρυσοφύλαξ</span>]]''' 07:26, 14 December 2013 (CET)


I am not sure on the byform. It is an uncommon construction, or maybe I am complicating things. Could I have another example? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:40, 16 May 2013 (CEST)
::I just assumed that I put in fair late for you guys and it might take 24ish hours to get a reply, so no worries for lateness. Happy Lucia, by the way.  


== Dev-App-Wiki ==
::I was thinking of Dhannuá, since both draw on celtic elements. Generally though, it's the fact that you've already done a translation of The Wildman and the King, which I felt got the flavour of what I was going for, means you have some experience rooting through what I feel is a rather difficult conlang and one which might be even more difficult for someone going into it blind with a language that has a vocabuluary better suited for a futuristic or contemporary setting, in the same way that I tend to have trouble translating really contemporary elements. But I'm definitely okay with whatever, so Skājamāl suits me if that's what has your interest at the moment.
::-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)


I wish there was an app for a wiki like ours D:
Certainly, I can initiate the sign-ups right now! However, bear in mind that the draught will take about one week, and then there's one week for the relay itself; we are after all approaching the Christmastide, and as such the activity will reach new lows. :P


But more importantly, You got a note on DA [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 07:18, 12 May 2013 (CEST)


== Circumstantial Evidence ==
The featured language nominations on the other hand, I'm willing to initiate on the spot!


Well not evidence but circumstantial
Sincerely, and Happy Lucia,[[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  12:47, 14 December 2013 (CET)


What the fuck is the interlinear shorting of circumstantial voice? [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 12:05, 13 May 2013 (CEST)
:Awesome!


I think it's okay not to follow Leipzig standards if they've forgotten something or if it is unclear. {{sc|circ}} or {{sc|cst}} or the like should work fine if you state what it mean. :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:31, 13 May 2013 (CEST)
Cheers and Happy Lucia,
-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)


== Gamla saker ==


== Contionary Help ==
Kollar in Voldemorts lya på sistonde? Samma dåliga skit på framsidan som då vi drog :P [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 16:51, 29 December 2013 (CET)


Thank you for pointing out those corrections! (and even more for pointing to which contionary entry I should be modeling after!) Most of how I've been building up the format and lay out for my language on this site (and previous sites) has been by looking at other entries and emulating them, so I was a little lost as to what I needed for a Contionary Entry.
Välkommen tillbaka! Allt väl? Ah, jag besökte honom nyss, var ju inte livat precis. Här har ju blivit väldigt tyst å det senaste också! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   21:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)


Question: I'm patterning my language on a mixture/slurring of several older languages, but as I've never had the chance to document the etymology before now, I didn't record it - do you think that my language will suffer because of this? I could possibly find which language the words came from, but it would take a lot of work and effort, and I'd much rather spend that energy moving forward. It's not all of my language, but the pronouns, the colors, then numbers and some other vocabulary... Would it be wrong to list the origins of those words as "lost"? [[User:Zomborgs|Zomborgs]] ([[User talk:Zomborgs|talk]]) 22:08, 14 May 2013 (CEST)
Translations for those who don't speak Swedish (trolol)


"Calling in Voldemort's lair pass sister? Some daily skit pass from-side some day we drink :P" <br>
"Welcome till back! All's well? Ah, I besought him n-yes, were you not living precisely. Har-har you believed welding this and that so-nasty oxen!"


No, no, I think not. If you really can't remember the etymologies (and can't make up some new ones!), just list them as "Unknown." Happens all the time.
--[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 23:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)
Looks good, so keep it up! :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:13, 16 May 2013 (CEST)


== De Nomenclatura ==
Tillbaka? Jag drog aldrig :) jag håller koll på stället hela tiden här! Det är mer liv här än där XD [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 08:08, 1 January 2014 (CET)


I have added my opinions, as requested. [[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 04:23, 15 May 2013 (CEST)
Haha, Oly, did you get it all? ^^Och Zelos, vi ska nog få fart på det litet grand nu. Det är snart omröstning för ett månadens språk - se te att rösta! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   14:37, 3 January 2014 (CET)


As per etiquette, I have responded. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   19:38, 16 May 2013 (CEST)
Jag håller min röst gisslan :P [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 15:49, 3 January 2014 (CET)


== More input requests! *flooding* ==
== Apologies/Third Relay ==


I have now added some touches to [[Elasian|Élászyato meret]]'s case and verbal system. Opinions? --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 04:35, 16 May 2013 (CEST)
Hey,


Input to come! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:14, 16 May 2013 (CEST)
Sorry for delaying everything around here! I got blindsided by a lot of stuff over the holidays and fell behind, I've been playing a frantic game of catchup since. I should have hte first leg up soon and will vote promptly.


== Detangle ==
Apologies,


I had an idea to assist conlangers of various languages.
-[[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 03:45, 19 January 2014 (CET)


Alot of common words such as "must" "can" "of" etc carries alot of meaning that people have problems with seperating if they aren't aware of it. We could create like an dentanglement section where common words in english (and any language really) have their meanings dentangled so people can see all the meanings seperately [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 06:38, 19 May 2013 (CEST)
Oh no worries! I myself ought to apologise, I have been fairly busy as well! I'm just glad it's started. :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   08:32, 21 January 2014 (CET)


How about? [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 19:50, 21 May 2013 (CEST)
== On the template ==


Hey Waahlis, I just got a message on my talk page reminding me of something that came up a few months ago. I was wondering if the language template could be changed to allow V2 as an option rather than only SVO or OSV. --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 04:43, 19 January 2014 (CET)


Oh right, forgot to answer!


I don't get it. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  21:50, 21 May 2013 (CEST)
Hi! I apologise, I have been away for a while! No matter, I have adjusted the template, and it now allows for the following extra word orders:


Alot of common words in most languages contain alot of meanings in them, must can both refer to an inferens aswelll as a demand, can refers to both possibility and ones ability, for example, a page where you show these meanings could help conlangers [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 05:40, 22 May 2013 (CEST)


If I may, this sounds like a really good idea. As someone with relatively minimal knowledge of linguistics, I've relied a lot on my knowledge of other Western European Languages to see how much meaning is packed into a word and how you can mess with it which can be hard to imagine, especially if you are a Monoglot.
<pre><nowiki>| V2=Verb-second
| VF=Verb-final
| SV=Subject-verb
| VS=Verb-subject
| OV= Object-verb
| VO=Verb-object
| SO=Subject-object
| OS=Object-subject
| Free=Free
| Non-configurational=Non-configurational
</nowiki></pre>
Hope it helps! Sincerely, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''   08:41, 21 January 2014 (CET)


An example of this that might be good, is that Wiktionary gives the definition of From as;
== Death by SVG ==


*With the source or provenance of or at. (I got a letter from my brother)
Sorry, I think I broke something here: [[:File:MorphSyntAlign2.svg]]!! --[[User:Aquatiki|Aquatiki]] ([[User talk:Aquatiki|talk]]) 02:58, 30 January 2014 (CET)
*With the origin, starting point or initial reference of or at. (Face away from the wall)
* With the separation, exclusion or differentiation of. (He knows right from wrong)


Which someone might not think of separating in a different language, because they're used to it all being in a single unit in what they speak. This isn't the best example but it's one of a few words that have different meanings that I associate.


Sorry for eavesdropping.


-Cheers, [[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 06:09, 23 May 2013 (CEST)
: Ah, yes, an SVG! We attempted to install support for them, but it backfired somewhat! No worries, I'll just delete it - I saw you updated a PNG equivalent. :) It can't affect the wiki as a whole, but I'm glad you left a message! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:35, 30 January 2014 (CET)


No problems, keep on trucvking if you want! He needs to answer it aanyway :P [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 06:32, 23 May 2013 (CEST)
:: OK.  It was a major undertaking to get it working on my own personal wiki.  Getting the latest version of PHP, ImageMagick, and dependencies is a real pain.  I recommend people try [http://image.online-convert.com/convert-to-png http://image.online-convert.com/convert-to-png] if they need PNG's made.  --[[User:Aquatiki|Aquatiki]] ([[User talk:Aquatiki|talk]]) 20:50, 31 January 2014 (CET)


== Missing words ==


Oh, eavesdropping is just good for the community. There are no secrets here!
So, now I've finally managed to make sense of most of your text, but it seems these words/affixes are missing in the wordlist:
* Unaccented ti-
* Wuwúa-
* Shakíne
* -tsi
* ay-
I hope I will be able to make sense of the whole text if you give me the translations of those words as well :P [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 19:05, 23 February 2014 (CET)


Eeeeehm, well, I know far more pressing concerns, and I am not sure I see the point of having such a "detanglement" centred here on the site... Whilst I do not wish to take part myself, please go ahead if you find it necessary!


I do however find it most suitable for you, Zelos, and Fauxlosophe to take initiative and realise this "detanglement"!


By the way, talk to Chrysophylax first, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  21:54, 23 May 2013 (CEST)


:I concur with Waahlis. I'm not so sure this might be the optimal place to fill up with semantics studies. I remember vaguely from the CONLANG mailing list that someone was compiling a major archive about differing semantic overlap in different languages. Perhaps, instead of reinventing the wheel, one large, proper, article could be created giving a summary overview of differences in semantics between languages and linking to further sources?  --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 00:03, 26 May 2013 (CEST)
Sorry, most of these are clashes of draughts!


The conlanger theosaurus? Wihle it is a great resource it can be good having it here just for a central hub for conlanger info which is our goal anyway [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 03:16, 26 May 2013 (CEST)
* Unaccented ti- = '''2.SG.POSS''', also as ''tí-''-
* Wuwúa- = '''1PL.HE'''-
* Shakíne = with that which is swift ~ '''quickly'''-
* -tsi = '''CON''', conative, "attempting to do something". The ''-tsi'' in ''Téeyimbaa'''tsi''''' is supposed to be an imperfective, though.  
* ay- = there is no inherent meaning as a prefix, but it does signify the subjunctive in words after ''ku''; (''uyáhahamb'''ay''''', ''yáahamb'''ay'''ak'').


==Tout petit modification à la Bannière Fén==
I'm glad it wasn't any worse than this! ^^ Do tell if there's anything else! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  21:11, 23 February 2014 (CET)


La bannière à le forum utilise un forme de Fén obsolete, c'est pas grande chose [l'autre serait acceptable] mais si vous pourriez faire ces petites changes, je serait très reconnaissant.
Ok, thanks. But if there is no prefix ay-, what's then going on with '''''ay'''tsurin''? [[User:Dē Graut Bʉr|Dē Graut Bʉr]] ([[User talk:Dē Graut Bʉr|talk]]) 13:36, 25 February 2014 (CET)


{| class="bluetable lightbluebg collapsible collapsed" style="text-align:left; width:750px;"
! Bér Dén Ghír ba Dénobh
|-
| '''Bhé bhél bér cór ghír ítá'''
Bhé fhémoc bér me ló cór ít pon éloc té bér dhén na bélim na lú dhír cór ghír ítá.
|}


-Merci, [[User:Fauxlosophe|Fauxlosophe]] ([[User talk:Fauxlosophe|talk]]) 06:37, 23 May 2013 (CEST)
Hmm... Gloss it as "about". :P Hehee... :( [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  20:40, 25 February 2014 (CET)


Bien sûr. C'est fait. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  22:22, 23 May 2013 (CEST)
== Buerkáns ==


==Featured Blurb==
I was just wondering if you had any critique for my newest conlang, [[Buerkáns|Buerkáns]].  Is it a plausible within the Germanic language family?  Or just your thoughts on it in general. [[User:Darthme|Darthme]] ([[User talk:Darthme|talk]]) 23:40, 2 March 2014 (CET)


I think this covers the basics of it;
Hi! Sorry, I've been pretty absent lately! I'll leave a response on your talk page, instead! :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  18:59, 28 March 2014 (CET)


Fén Ghír (Is there a way I could get my conscript in this?) is spoken primarily amongst the Fén people on the North-Western Fén Ír penisula as well as various islands and smaller northern settlements on the continent known as Dínír amongst the Fén, and refered to as "Borealis" in a more culturally neutral English on the Conworld of "Sphaera".  It is one of four major surviving members of the Galavic family, and the only politically independant one. It is also distantly related to Toryl, So'raan and Zewani. Fén primarily relies on two scripts, the first, Highlands Fén or Célán is a system similar to runic or Ogham which evolved from a tallymark sytem, the other Lowland Writing which is a more recent innovation derived from the Toryl system that lies somewhere between an abjad and alphabet.
== sj ==


Fén Ghír is an a priori constructed language by the user Fauxlosophe on the Linguifex Wiki for the conworld Sphaera. It shows heavy Irish Gaelic influence in orthography and phonology, as well as in Grammar. Grammar and Syllable structure have also been heavily influenced by Japanese. English and French are also present as lesser influences.
What would be the best realisation for the Swedish "sj-sound" for a foreigner to adopt? [[File:PMOB.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User:PMOB|<span style="color:red;">Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán</span>]]''' 14:04, 25 March 2014 (CET)




Should be possible. Do you want me to use the script on your page? I'll add the blurb in advance. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  23:39, 31 May 2013 (CEST)
I would recommend a post-alveolar or possibly alveolo-palatal voiceless fricative, mainly because it's a common realisation in many dialects. It is not at all the accurate pronunciation, and not phonetically very close, however. Phonetically, try maybe, a voiceless labio-velar approximant or a very labialised voiceless velar fricative. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  20:32, 25 March 2014 (CET)


== Featured language ==


Shouldn't it be 'featured language of Linguifex for June'? I'm thinking that May is already past us :P
Thanks for the advice! What is it for you? [[File:PMOB.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User:PMOB|<span style="color:red;">Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán</span>]]''' 16:29, 29 March 2014 (CET)
--[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Chrysophylax</span>]]''' 12:47, 3 June 2013 (CEST)


Tree-fity


Of May for June! Of course, my logic must've played me joke. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  20:11, 3 June 2013 (CEST)
I absolutely hate when people whom are swedish does not make a distinction between sköld and köld, comon D: .


== Aesthetics ==
[[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 08:39, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


I appreciate the sweet collapse button on the verb list, but it is one of my immediate goals to move the bigarse list from the site to a spreadsheet. :) Ye can use those fancy collapse buttons on my other tables though. :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 00:14, 23 June 2013 (CEST)


Oops, sorry! I thought you wanted a collapse on it, since there was one to start with, my bad! The code for it is <nowiki>mw-collapsible mw-collapsed</nowiki> so you can remove or add it as you want! You leaving us? :( [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  11:07, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
I agree! I tried to remain a bit objective! ^^ Well, the true "sj"-sound doesn't have an agreed upon transcription. For me, a (''rather'') close approximation before rounded vowels is [ɸˠʷ], whilst [x̞ʷ] kind of works in other contexts. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  19:54, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


No no, you've got it wrong! I asked for on the forums to move the content box(the list of all the in-page links near the top) so it would be right beneath the title of the page, and my intro text about the language near the top of the page would be between the content box and the progress box. Then I checked to find the box on the completely opposite side of my page modified. I'm just moving the vocabulary to spreadsheets, all the other stuff will be here, and I'll also link the vocabulary to my page, probably from google docs or something. :) I'm not going anywhere, just getting more organized. --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 15:58, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
It is our nation, we can be as much of mean bastards as we can! *shakes fist* Let's call the sound sklrplhglykhh and call it a day so no one can pronounce it as it requires 3 tounges and another 8 places of articulation [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 20:29, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


Also, can I make the expand button move into the left most box in the table and not the right most? --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 16:06, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
:Can one use fingers as additional tongues? Though I won't start naming all the other places of articulation here... :P [[User:Juhhmi|Juhhmi]] ([[User talk:Juhhmi|talk]]) 22:27, 30 March 2014 (CEST)




Well, I do not think it is possible to get the intro inbetween the Contents list and the Progress box. However, if you create a heading for the intro, it will automatically go beneath both the contents and the progress box. ''However'', this is contrary to our manual of style, as we prefer to have an introduction on the top of the page (Like wikipedia). Although I suppose we could make an exception...
== ¿Adivina quién está aquí? ==


Are you referring to the expand button when boxes are collapsible? You want it to go on the left instead?
Hola chico,
¿cómo estás? ¡La mar de tiempo que no nos hablamos! Muchísimo, mejor, "muchimuchísimo" :(
Me han pasado muchas cosas en estos meses y no todas bonitas... ¡¡¡Por fin puedo volver a escribir algo a esta página y a modificar y continuar mis conlangs!!! Ahora estoy acabando mi trabajo para la graduación (la última graduación de las dos que sirven para completar un ciclo de estudios universitarios aquí) y he hecho una solicitud para ir a una Folkshögskola en Suecia y ahora tengo que esperar el resultado  :) Desde hace un poquito trabajo - pero sin salario - como profesor de italiano para extranjeros y me gusta mucho :)
¿Y tú? ¿Todo bien? ¡Una gran abrazada!
[[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llais</span>]]''' 02:56, 10 April 2014 (CEST)


[[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  16:28, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
Llyn! De verdad, Hace poco me he graduado de la escuela secundaria sueca, y por eso no he tenido tiempo por nada para trabajar en el wiki. Me alegra que todo va tan bien!! Yo también he trabajado como profesor privado (de las matemáticas)! Ya no has visitado Suecia? Qué pena! Cuál Folkhögskola has eligido? :O


Alright well, dropping the thing about the contents box, yeah I was wondering if the expand but could be in the left most cell of of the table, because many times there's nothing in that cell and always is there something in the top right cell. :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 18:31, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
Y como siempre, todo bien, visité España hace una semana! ^^ [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  14:43, 23 June 2014 (CEST)


¡Hola! La verdad ya no esperaba tu respuesta :P ¡Jajajaja! No te preocupes, te entiendo bien.
¡Felicidades! ¿Conoces bien las matemáticas también? ¡Qué bueno! :)
Las cosas han mudado: he trabajado estos últimos tres meses como profesor privado de italiano CON salario :P Me han eligido para irme a Suecia, pero la Folkhögskola ha sido eligida por el Svenska Institutet: Vindeln. El 28 de augusto me voy y me quedo allá hasta el final de noviembre. Ya visité Estocolmo en 2009, esta va a ser mi segunda vez en Suecia :)
Lo siento que yo no vaya a estar cerca de tu ciudad, me gustaría muchísimo conocerte en persona :)
Ahora voy, estos días estoy preparando mis maletas y lo que me sirve para viajar a Suecia y quedarme allá durante tres meses :) Espero que me vaya a gustar como hace cinco años.
Un beso
[[File:Llyn.png|35px|link=User:Llyn]] '''[[User talk:Llyn|<span style="color: Green;">Llais</span>]]''' 21:59, 06 August 2014 (CEST)


Ah, I saw your problem - no, that'd need a site-wide code change. However, I have a solution. I shall change it, and then you tell me if you like it! :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  18:44, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
== Delete Conlang page please? ==


I had to leave for a bit, but I'm back! I see what ye've done and I'll keep that in mind; I might change it a bit more. Thanks! --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 23:17, 23 June 2013 (CEST)
Hi Wåhlis! I was wondering if you could please delete my conlang pages:<br />


== Causative ==
User:Mcmisher96/Unnamed<br />


Causative isn't an aspect my friend, it is a voice if anything. [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 07:13, 26 June 2013 (CEST)
and <br />


Traditionally no, you're right. However, it acts virtually identically to the rest of the aspects in Ris, so I placed it there yet anyway! :P [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  14:28, 26 June 2013 (CEST)
User:Mcmisher96/Khavar<br />


They are no longer desired.


In my verb spreadsheet, I made a column called "staticity" (temporary title) where I list each of the verbs as either stative, dynamic, or causative. It does sound kinda like a voice though. Wow, spell check doesn't say kinda is not a word! --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 14:42, 26 June 2013 (CEST)


Of course! One moment! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  14:26, 23 June 2014 (CEST)


I maybe wouldn't group those together...! But there are lots of languages that do things differently! Oly, you wanted some help with your vowel table? [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  15:04, 26 June 2013 (CEST)
Hey again! Could you delete all my Czecklish documents and categories please? I want to start over again, because I've completely overhauled my conlang, with a new name, new phonology, and new morphology. Thanks!


True, I can never decide if I want to keep this column or maybe just put "causative" or "stative" in the notes column on the side. I'll put a link to the verb spreadsheet when I'm finished with it so the world can enjoy. With the table of vowels I decided to combine the obnoxiously large table of rhotic vowels, but there is one vowel that I don't know wherein it fits, so it would be nice if one of ye could help me with that. :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 22:12, 26 June 2013 (CEST)
==Fixing this up==
[[Linguifex:Policy]]


Domine, this page reads like a shoddy wikipedia expy. Maybe we should clean it up? As you've declared yourself policy taskmaster I won't edit unless you give me the OK. --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Χρυσοφύλαξ</span>]]''' 21:38, 6 July 2014 (CEST)


Done! It was an open-mid central vowel! :) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  11:53, 27 June 2013 (CEST)
== Table Troubles ==


Tack så mycket! I wish I could speak Swedish. :) --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 17:17, 27 June 2013 (CEST)
Hi! I was busy doing some work on Czecklish, and I just added the '''Template:Infobox''' and the '''Template:Classmeter''' to my main page [[Czecklish]]. I would like to know how to put the '''Template:Classmeter''' underneath the '''Template:Infobox'''. The two of them next to each other is unsightly, and distracting.


== Dir auch frohe Weihnachten ==


"Tack så mycket" is quite enough! ^^ It's not an overly useful language. (Other than the array of vowels, though. ) [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  18:25, 27 June 2013 (CEST)
Hallöchen, ganz erfrischend zu sehen, dass du zurück bist :-) Vielleicht könntest du <s>betrachten</s> darüber nachdenken, dich zu registrieren, wenn du Zeit hast, im vierten Linguifex Relay teilzunehmen? Ich habe noch eine weitere Sprache auszuprobieren und zur Schau zu stellen, darum habe ich mir erlaubt, vorzeitig darauf vorzubereiten... [[User:IlL|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 04:10, 24 December 2014 (CET)


It doesn't make much sense calling it an aspect, aspect deals with TIME, not how the verb came to be. [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 21:12, 29 June 2013 (CEST)
§


Languages rarely do make sense. :P The Ris causative conjugates according to the different moods and voices of the language; thus morphologically similar to the aspects. That said, I'm not completely done with the verbal system, and nevertheless, I wouldn't call it an aspect when I'm done. [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  11:32, 30 June 2013 (CEST)
Oh dear God, that was a pain translating! Thank you! Why yes, I might just join; I'm going to guess you haven't started yet. I have an annoying tendency to suddenly disappear nowadays, but I'll try to fight myself and participate!


== Expand ==
Sincerely, and as we say in Sweden, God Fortsättning! [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  23:19, 26 December 2014 (CET)
Yo, my verb conjugation table is supposed to have an expand button, but it doesn't seem to work. Is there a place where I can learn this wiki code to fix all of this schtuff? ---


Ah, tut mir leid, dass "that was a pain translating!" (Ich sehe, dass ich da das falsche Verb verwendete!) Ich hoffe, dass sich mein Deutsch inzwischen verbessert hat, wenn auch nur ein wenig. Nun endet bei mir dieses Semester... ich verspreche, dass ich in diesem Monat einen akzeptablen Quelltext fürs Relay verfasse. [[User:IlL|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL|talk]]) 05:50, 2 May 2015 (CEST)


Forgot to sign, Oly! ^^
== Dump ==
Well, there are lots of places to learn wikicode; a quick search gives loads of results! However, it is difficult to filter everything to that which you actually need to learn. I recommend you to look at other pages with the code you are looking for, and then copy it to your own page.


Concerning the verb table, you correctly inserted the "mw-collapsible mw-collapsed", but it is important that you put it in the <nowiki>'class="..." '</nowiki> part, right after "bluetable lightbluebg". :) Look at the pages me and the other administrators have made, and try to figure out what to do from that! Or just ask, after all, that's why we're here. Sincerely, as always, [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  20:20, 29 June 2013 (CEST)
Sorry about this!


Oops, I swear I signed, my viking linguist friend! Actually, I was referring to a different table than the one ye fixed, haha, but I'll do just as ye said to fix the conjugation table. Ironically, I found next to nothing searching for wikicode, except the documentation which who knows where to start. I shall take a look though at what the pros do, thanks! --[[User:OlySlayer|OlySlayer]] ([[User talk:OlySlayer|talk]]) 19:11, 30 June 2013 (CEST)
[[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 18:40, 5 July 2015 (CEST)


== Hallå? Det är dags. ==


No worries, we all forget!
[ insert IKEA-dalahäst ] [[Fourth Linguifex Relay/Van|vassegå]] --[[File:Admin.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Chrysophylax|<span style="color: #3366BB ;">Χρυσοφύλαξ</span>]]''' 11:08, 13 July 2015 (CEST)


Oh, I am certainly no linguist! ^^ I suppose I am a viking though...! Oh, my bad - at least now you know how to fix it. :P Hmm, nor did I, really. But then I knew less than you when I began a few years ago, but I imitated, copied, asked for help and copied again. That's how I learnt, and it worked well. Others have gone programming courses... Unfair...  [[File:Waahlis.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]] '''[[User talk:Waahlis|<span style="color: Orange;">Waahlis</span>]]'''  10:50, 1 July 2013 (CEST)
== Offensive ==


== Front page ==
I find this offensive [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 16:37, 21 June 2016 (CEST)
 
== Sixth Linguifex Relay ==


I love the new front page, its awesome! [[File:Zelos.png|35px|link=Linguifex:Administrators]]&nbsp;'''[[User Talk:EmperorZelos|<span style="color:#800080;">Emperor Zelos</span>]]''' 08:11, 14 July 2013 (CEST)
Hay [[Sixth_Linguifex_Relay/Nankôre | Nankôre]] sikorôsno ras.  Pahi ha tahitáh ne!


I agree! It looks simpler and cleaner. Keep up the good work! [[User:Newrhotic|Newrhotic]] ([[User talk:Newrhotic|talk]]) 01:29, 15 July 2013 (CEST)
Here are the Nankôre words. Good fortune to you! [[User:Anyar|Anyar]] ([[User talk:Anyar|talk]]) 04:02, 28 August 2018 (CEST)

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Front page

I love the new front page, its awesome! Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:11, 14 July 2013 (CEST)

I agree! It looks simpler and cleaner. Keep up the good work! Newrhotic (talk) 01:29, 15 July 2013 (CEST)


Thanks, both of you! Any criticism? I have no problems to improve it continuously! Sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 15:53, 15 July 2013 (CEST)

Agreed! The new front page is freaking awesome! You're awesome! --Admin.png Chrysophylax 23:00, 18 July 2013 (CEST)

Let's not exaggerate! :P Do tell if you need me to change anything. Waahlis.png Waahlis 00:46, 21 July 2013 (CEST)

Cwengâr&Fén Ghír

The pages for these two languages on my computer do not have a side or top bar and cut off before the end [specifically at "vowels" and "ba" respectively], other language pages seem to be working fine. Could you look into this for me?

-Cheers, Fauxlosophe (talk) 00:53, 18 July 2013 (CEST)


Of course, I'll look into it. However, I don't quite grasp the problem? Waahlis.png Waahlis 16:20, 18 July 2013 (CEST)

I should have gotten a screen grab but it seems to have resolved itself. If you're interested, just incase this is a recurring error;

  • The main page itself was the only thing visible; the side bar [Mainpage, Announcements, Recent Changes... Toolbox, Other], tabs [Mainpage, Discussion, Read, Edit... Go, Search] and top bar [My Talk, My Preferences, My Watchlist... etc] were simply blank; there was no visible text or anything where they should have been.
  • The end of the page also cut off; nothing after certain sections were accessible and the browser treated it as if the page ended there in the middle of the article, not allowing me to scroll further down; thus the Category section was not accessible.
  • Attempting to link to the areas cut off from the navigation box or using ctrl+f to find a word would give no response [or no result in the case of ctrl+f], though the navigation box would link me directly to the parts of the article as it would normally on other pages.

Hasn't happened to me before on any other forums so I suspect it may have been an error with Linguifex, possibly due to my trying to access these pages through history or favourites? Either way, it is resolved now.

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2013 (CEST)


Hmm, I haven't experienced anything similar. Have you encountered it more than once? Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:40, 24 July 2013 (CEST)

A Priori

I want to create a completely new language to use while I work on my Germanic conlang. I want it to be totally unrelated to any living languages but still go with the old European Nominative-Accusative fusional deal. The thing is, I want to make it so it seems to flow easily and look good/beautiful when written. Do ye have any ideas for this and maybe any notable alphabets or ideas to create a constructed script? --OlySlayer (talk) 01:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

And I'm not just talking about visually flowing, but I mean it could just roll off the tongue like a delicious smoothy of sorts :) --OlySlayer (talk) 01:41, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Try a hawaiian esque free vowel no dipthong system, but replace all stops with a lot of taps, trills, nasals, and approximants like you see in Indian languages. Add tone to give it a songlike quality. As for the writing system, look at the alphabets of southern india, they were written on palm leaves which would rip if the script was too rough. Also make all your sounds voiced, voiceless sounds interrupt the hum of speech. Of course, I'm defining flow as sounds which do not interrupt the hum of voiced speech. You might not actually know what what you want when you think of something so subjective as how a language "rools of the tongue", in which case, you are the only one who can decide.

Greatbuddha (talk) 08:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Hey, thanks for the great insight! I'll definitely check out the Hawaiian speech and southern Indian script. I hadn't thought of the voicing and I don't really know what tone is but I'll definitely look into it, and yeah that is quite subjective I s'pose :p Thanks! --OlySlayer (talk) 09:58, 26 July 2013 (CEST)


Greatbuddha makes a few great points. My personal trick for this is to try to imitate an orthography of a language that I really like, be it a conlang or natlang, and make a completely different grammar. Think of it as a car, you paint it, add a few features, but under the bonnet, no one grasps its complexity!

I'd say you should do this: Take a shorter text and then semi-translate it into a few different sketchlangs, all of them with different orthographies and phonologies, then see which one you like the best, or mix them up! Hope it helps at all, Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:36, 26 July 2013 (CEST)

Sounds like a plan! In my conworld it's supposed to be a sort of language of the angels so that's what I'm looking for. :) --OlySlayer (talk) 00:47, 27 July 2013 (CEST)

¡Hola, guapetón!

Hola, chicote, ¿cómo andas? No nos sentimos desde hace tiempo. Te escribo para dejarte un recado: dentro de dos días me marcho a Alemania para hacer un curso avanzado de alemán, vuelvo el 31 de augusto, entonces no creo que nos vamos a hablar hasta aquel día :( He aprobado el test de sueco con 86/100 puntos y ahora tengo uficialmente un nivel B1 de lengua sueca, ¡todavía no lo creo! Tú, ¿qué me cuentas? ¿Vacaciones? ¿Viajes? Te doy un gran abrazo y hasta pronto :) Llyn.png Llais 20:39, 28 July 2013 (CET)


¡Hola! Ando bien, como siempre. :) ¡Felicidades, lo mereces! :D Vale, te estaré esperando. Espero que lo pases bomba; he oido que el tiempo en Alemania hace extremadamente bien. Jajaja, mis vacaciones terminan dentro de pronto, y después vuelvo al instituto para continuar mis estudios. :)

¡Un gran abrazo a ti también! Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:28, 31 July 2013 (CEST)

Voting

Can I nominate a language to be featured which I feel to be sufficiently complete but without the featured banner translated yet? Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd (talk) 05:16, 13 August 2013 (CEST)

As long as you can translate the banner and does it, yes Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 11:55, 13 August 2013 (CEST)

That wouldn't be necessary. A nomination doesn't really need the translation banner. But it won't pass the voting round without the banner. :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:40, 17 August 2013 (CEST)

Välyatalle etymologies

From Välyatalle/Etymologies I present you with

*kaʔlʲaśa: Va. kaalas "party, celebration"; Elas. kályaz "dance".
*chuckles* --Admin.png Chrysophylax 03:04, 30 August 2013 (CEST)

Congradulations

Congrats on usurping my title as featured language. However mark my words that a Sphaeran language will return! You haven't seen the last of Galavic on the front page. Maaaaaaaark my wooooorrrrrddddddddds!

Sincerely though; congrats on the election,

Cheers,

Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2013 (CEST)


Mehe, The Usurper does have a certain ring to it...! But when it returns, believe me, then the Ris and Rana languages will be prepared! I shall mark your words with Indian ink if that's what it'll take! ^^And thank you, it was nail-biting in the end! Sincererly, Waahlis.png Waahlis 10:42, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Congratulations indeed! Neym rope hat ahezinimy nik napek phorik! "I'm happy that your language was featured!" Juhhmi (talk) 11:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

*mutters in high front/back vowels, rounded and unrounded with lots of geminate consonants* Vahalya cometh! --Admin.png Chrysophylax 11:30, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Congratulations! Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 11:41, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Ie ham ganalkáltiji themsármȁ! And don't underestimate Themsaran! Ílchőfti Lēmáthīd (talk) 19:24, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

Dônalh Cwengâr 'ongŷgw gwô ôrha ngâr ngàr ô ffetam ât hôrha rŷnobanaff... cwê ugwôn! Cwengaer will crush your languages underfoot and burn your writings... eventually!--Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:16, 2 September 2013 (CEST)


Thank you! I'm sure all of you will outperform me! ^^ Let's just avoid multicultural war. Waahlis.png Waahlis 18:13, 2 September 2013 (CEST)

First Linguifex Relay

Tag, you're it! You can find the torch here! Have fun. :)

Relaytorch.svg This user is currently the torch bearer for First Linguifex Relay/Harākti and was handed it on 18:30, 6 September 2013 (CEST) by Ashucky. The torch will automagically pass on to the next relay member in 48 hours.


Arena

I can't create new threads here. Should we get the ball rolling on this? -Fauxlosophe (talk) 22:52, 16 September 2013 (CEST)


Sorry, that's from when I thought it was supposed to be a relay forum! I shall change it right away! By the way, I won't be very active here for about a week; I am currently writing the Second Linguifex Relay, and reconstructing a proto-language of mine! ^^ Waahlis.png Waahlis 23:15, 16 September 2013 (CEST)

Then as tempting as it may be, I won't usurp you with my own already finished text until after but I do have a few good ideas for other things we could do in the meantime. I'll put them up soon-Fauxlosophe (talk) 06:56, 17 September 2013 (CEST)

Let's decide that's the third one then! And please, go ahead! Message all the people you want there or ask Chrys to make cross-wiki announcement! I shall try to participate, myself. Waahlis.png Waahlis 07:45, 17 September 2013 (CEST)

I put up a few threads, the proverb one was specifically with you in mind. I've got a few proverbs in Fén that I'm happy with but you've got some catered perfectly for your language. Check out the rest as well!-Fauxlosophe (talk) 23:35, 25 September 2013 (CEST)

The Comlang

Are we going to finish it? Or do you want to start a new one? (Or not do a comlang at all?)

I don't really care, I was just look forward to all the linguistic experience probably it'd give me.
CLtɔk ˈpeɪdʒ/ 23:42, 9 October 2013 (CEST)

Neghal díril

Cíné me ít. Té re ba fhaben cur bhoci!

Tel té bér cór re.

--Fauxlosophe (talk) 05:27, 25 November 2013 (CET)

PS. This relay reminded me of how much I love Fén and why. It just sounds so pretty next to the near inpenetrable and unpronouncable Cwengâr.

Alska Reversion

Why was Alska reverted to how it was before? I'm going through and updating/remaking the language. Just wondering Darthme (talk) 21:21, 30 November 2013 (CET)


Oh, my dear bloody God! What have I done!? I'm so sorry, I'm on my tablet when browsing the site nowadays, I must've mistakenly reverted your edits! Have you fixed it, or shall I do it in the morning?

Pardon me, most sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 00:37, 1 December 2013 (CET)


No it's fine, I reverted it again. For a moment I freaked out but the I remembered there was a changelog for each page, so I just set it back to how I had it. It's all good, so no worries. :) Darthme (talk) 11:18, 1 December 2013 (CET)

I'm ever so sorry! :P It shan't happen again! Waahlis.png Waahlis 11:21, 1 December 2013 (CET)

Next Relay

I have the text ready for the next relay as of ages ago. Chrys has volunteered to be the first victim as his conlang shares a few similarities to mine and will make the transition a little easier. As soon as you're ready to start collecting volunteers, I'm able to assemble a gloss.

Also when are we doing the next featured language?

Slán,

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 07:08, 13 December 2013 (CET)

On behalf of Waahlis (and indeed, all Swedes), I apologise for the tardy response. December 13 is Lucia day in Sweden where we celebrate the memory of light, warmth and sacrifice in the midst of seemingly everlasting darkness and cold with sweet saffron-buns and cookies. Furthermore, I am would like to inquire about which language specifically you have in mind? None of my languages are as analytic as yours :P And, I have a new pet project, at User:Chrysophylax/Skājamāl, which I'd love to use in the next relay if that's fine. It's YAIEL (Yet Another Indo-European Conlang) like Dhannuá so it shouldn't be too far removed grammatically in general terms, if you want to know what to expect. --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 07:26, 14 December 2013 (CET)
I just assumed that I put in fair late for you guys and it might take 24ish hours to get a reply, so no worries for lateness. Happy Lucia, by the way.
I was thinking of Dhannuá, since both draw on celtic elements. Generally though, it's the fact that you've already done a translation of The Wildman and the King, which I felt got the flavour of what I was going for, means you have some experience rooting through what I feel is a rather difficult conlang and one which might be even more difficult for someone going into it blind with a language that has a vocabuluary better suited for a futuristic or contemporary setting, in the same way that I tend to have trouble translating really contemporary elements. But I'm definitely okay with whatever, so Skājamāl suits me if that's what has your interest at the moment.
-Fauxlosophe (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Certainly, I can initiate the sign-ups right now! However, bear in mind that the draught will take about one week, and then there's one week for the relay itself; we are after all approaching the Christmastide, and as such the activity will reach new lows. :P


The featured language nominations on the other hand, I'm willing to initiate on the spot!

Sincerely, and Happy Lucia,Waahlis.png Waahlis 12:47, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Awesome!

Cheers and Happy Lucia, -Fauxlosophe (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2013 (CET)

Gamla saker

Kollar in Voldemorts lya på sistonde? Samma dåliga skit på framsidan som då vi drog :P Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 16:51, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Välkommen tillbaka! Allt väl? Ah, jag besökte honom nyss, var ju inte livat precis. Här har ju blivit väldigt tyst å det senaste också! Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Translations for those who don't speak Swedish (trolol)

"Calling in Voldemort's lair pass sister? Some daily skit pass from-side some day we drink :P"
"Welcome till back! All's well? Ah, I besought him n-yes, were you not living precisely. Har-har you believed welding this and that so-nasty oxen!"

--OlySlayer (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2013 (CET)

Tillbaka? Jag drog aldrig :) jag håller koll på stället hela tiden här! Det är mer liv här än där XD Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:08, 1 January 2014 (CET)

Haha, Oly, did you get it all? ^^Och Zelos, vi ska nog få fart på det litet grand nu. Det är snart omröstning för ett månadens språk - se te att rösta! Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:37, 3 January 2014 (CET)

Jag håller min röst gisslan :P Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 15:49, 3 January 2014 (CET)

Apologies/Third Relay

Hey,

Sorry for delaying everything around here! I got blindsided by a lot of stuff over the holidays and fell behind, I've been playing a frantic game of catchup since. I should have hte first leg up soon and will vote promptly.

Apologies,

-Fauxlosophe (talk) 03:45, 19 January 2014 (CET)

Oh no worries! I myself ought to apologise, I have been fairly busy as well! I'm just glad it's started. :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 08:32, 21 January 2014 (CET)

On the template

Hey Waahlis, I just got a message on my talk page reminding me of something that came up a few months ago. I was wondering if the language template could be changed to allow V2 as an option rather than only SVO or OSV. --OlySlayer (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2014 (CET)


Hi! I apologise, I have been away for a while! No matter, I have adjusted the template, and it now allows for the following extra word orders:


| V2=Verb-second
| VF=Verb-final
| SV=Subject-verb
| VS=Verb-subject
| OV= Object-verb
| VO=Verb-object
| SO=Subject-object
| OS=Object-subject
| Free=Free
| Non-configurational=Non-configurational

Hope it helps! Sincerely, Waahlis.png Waahlis 08:41, 21 January 2014 (CET)

Death by SVG

Sorry, I think I broke something here: File:MorphSyntAlign2.svg!! --Aquatiki (talk) 02:58, 30 January 2014 (CET)


Ah, yes, an SVG! We attempted to install support for them, but it backfired somewhat! No worries, I'll just delete it - I saw you updated a PNG equivalent. :) It can't affect the wiki as a whole, but I'm glad you left a message! Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:35, 30 January 2014 (CET)
OK. It was a major undertaking to get it working on my own personal wiki. Getting the latest version of PHP, ImageMagick, and dependencies is a real pain. I recommend people try http://image.online-convert.com/convert-to-png if they need PNG's made. --Aquatiki (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2014 (CET)

Missing words

So, now I've finally managed to make sense of most of your text, but it seems these words/affixes are missing in the wordlist:

  • Unaccented ti-
  • Wuwúa-
  • Shakíne
  • -tsi
  • ay-

I hope I will be able to make sense of the whole text if you give me the translations of those words as well :P Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 19:05, 23 February 2014 (CET)



Sorry, most of these are clashes of draughts!

  • Unaccented ti- = 2.SG.POSS, also as tí--
  • Wuwúa- = 1PL.HE-
  • Shakíne = with that which is swift ~ quickly-
  • -tsi = CON, conative, "attempting to do something". The -tsi in Téeyimbaatsi is supposed to be an imperfective, though.
  • ay- = there is no inherent meaning as a prefix, but it does signify the subjunctive in words after ku; (uyáhahambay, yáahambayak).

I'm glad it wasn't any worse than this! ^^ Do tell if there's anything else! Waahlis.png Waahlis 21:11, 23 February 2014 (CET)

Ok, thanks. But if there is no prefix ay-, what's then going on with aytsurin? Dē Graut Bʉr (talk) 13:36, 25 February 2014 (CET)


Hmm... Gloss it as "about". :P Hehee... :( Waahlis.png Waahlis 20:40, 25 February 2014 (CET)

Buerkáns

I was just wondering if you had any critique for my newest conlang, Buerkáns. Is it a plausible within the Germanic language family? Or just your thoughts on it in general. Darthme (talk) 23:40, 2 March 2014 (CET)

Hi! Sorry, I've been pretty absent lately! I'll leave a response on your talk page, instead! :) Waahlis.png Waahlis 18:59, 28 March 2014 (CET)

sj

What would be the best realisation for the Swedish "sj-sound" for a foreigner to adopt? PMOB.png Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán 14:04, 25 March 2014 (CET)


I would recommend a post-alveolar or possibly alveolo-palatal voiceless fricative, mainly because it's a common realisation in many dialects. It is not at all the accurate pronunciation, and not phonetically very close, however. Phonetically, try maybe, a voiceless labio-velar approximant or a very labialised voiceless velar fricative. Waahlis.png Waahlis 20:32, 25 March 2014 (CET)


Thanks for the advice! What is it for you? PMOB.png Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán 16:29, 29 March 2014 (CET)

Tree-fity

I absolutely hate when people whom are swedish does not make a distinction between sköld and köld, comon D: .

Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 08:39, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


I agree! I tried to remain a bit objective! ^^ Well, the true "sj"-sound doesn't have an agreed upon transcription. For me, a (rather) close approximation before rounded vowels is [ɸˠʷ], whilst [x̞ʷ] kind of works in other contexts. Waahlis.png Waahlis 19:54, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

It is our nation, we can be as much of mean bastards as we can! *shakes fist* Let's call the sound sklrplhglykhh and call it a day so no one can pronounce it as it requires 3 tounges and another 8 places of articulation Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 20:29, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

Can one use fingers as additional tongues? Though I won't start naming all the other places of articulation here... :P Juhhmi (talk) 22:27, 30 March 2014 (CEST)


¿Adivina quién está aquí?

Hola chico, ¿cómo estás? ¡La mar de tiempo que no nos hablamos! Muchísimo, mejor, "muchimuchísimo" :( Me han pasado muchas cosas en estos meses y no todas bonitas... ¡¡¡Por fin puedo volver a escribir algo a esta página y a modificar y continuar mis conlangs!!! Ahora estoy acabando mi trabajo para la graduación (la última graduación de las dos que sirven para completar un ciclo de estudios universitarios aquí) y he hecho una solicitud para ir a una Folkshögskola en Suecia y ahora tengo que esperar el resultado  :) Desde hace un poquito trabajo - pero sin salario - como profesor de italiano para extranjeros y me gusta mucho :) ¿Y tú? ¿Todo bien? ¡Una gran abrazada! Llyn.png Llais 02:56, 10 April 2014 (CEST)

Llyn! De verdad, Hace poco me he graduado de la escuela secundaria sueca, y por eso no he tenido tiempo por nada para trabajar en el wiki. Me alegra que todo va tan bien!! Yo también he trabajado como profesor privado (de las matemáticas)! Ya no has visitado Suecia? Qué pena! Cuál Folkhögskola has eligido? :O

Y como siempre, todo bien, visité España hace una semana! ^^ Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:43, 23 June 2014 (CEST)

¡Hola! La verdad ya no esperaba tu respuesta :P ¡Jajajaja! No te preocupes, te entiendo bien. ¡Felicidades! ¿Conoces bien las matemáticas también? ¡Qué bueno! :) Las cosas han mudado: he trabajado estos últimos tres meses como profesor privado de italiano CON salario :P Me han eligido para irme a Suecia, pero la Folkhögskola ha sido eligida por el Svenska Institutet: Vindeln. El 28 de augusto me voy y me quedo allá hasta el final de noviembre. Ya visité Estocolmo en 2009, esta va a ser mi segunda vez en Suecia :) Lo siento que yo no vaya a estar cerca de tu ciudad, me gustaría muchísimo conocerte en persona :) Ahora voy, estos días estoy preparando mis maletas y lo que me sirve para viajar a Suecia y quedarme allá durante tres meses :) Espero que me vaya a gustar como hace cinco años. Un beso Llyn.png Llais 21:59, 06 August 2014 (CEST)

Delete Conlang page please?

Hi Wåhlis! I was wondering if you could please delete my conlang pages:

User:Mcmisher96/Unnamed

and

User:Mcmisher96/Khavar

They are no longer desired.


Of course! One moment! Waahlis.png Waahlis 14:26, 23 June 2014 (CEST)

Hey again! Could you delete all my Czecklish documents and categories please? I want to start over again, because I've completely overhauled my conlang, with a new name, new phonology, and new morphology. Thanks!

Fixing this up

Linguifex:Policy

Domine, this page reads like a shoddy wikipedia expy. Maybe we should clean it up? As you've declared yourself policy taskmaster I won't edit unless you give me the OK. --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 21:38, 6 July 2014 (CEST)

Table Troubles

Hi! I was busy doing some work on Czecklish, and I just added the Template:Infobox and the Template:Classmeter to my main page Czecklish. I would like to know how to put the Template:Classmeter underneath the Template:Infobox. The two of them next to each other is unsightly, and distracting.

Dir auch frohe Weihnachten

Hallöchen, ganz erfrischend zu sehen, dass du zurück bist :-) Vielleicht könntest du betrachten darüber nachdenken, dich zu registrieren, wenn du Zeit hast, im vierten Linguifex Relay teilzunehmen? Ich habe noch eine weitere Sprache auszuprobieren und zur Schau zu stellen, darum habe ich mir erlaubt, vorzeitig darauf vorzubereiten... IlL (talk) 04:10, 24 December 2014 (CET)


Oh dear God, that was a pain translating! Thank you! Why yes, I might just join; I'm going to guess you haven't started yet. I have an annoying tendency to suddenly disappear nowadays, but I'll try to fight myself and participate!

Sincerely, and as we say in Sweden, God Fortsättning! Waahlis.png Waahlis 23:19, 26 December 2014 (CET)

Ah, tut mir leid, dass "that was a pain translating!" (Ich sehe, dass ich da das falsche Verb verwendete!) Ich hoffe, dass sich mein Deutsch inzwischen verbessert hat, wenn auch nur ein wenig. Nun endet bei mir dieses Semester... ich verspreche, dass ich in diesem Monat einen akzeptablen Quelltext fürs Relay verfasse. IlL (talk) 05:50, 2 May 2015 (CEST)

Dump

Sorry about this!

Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 18:40, 5 July 2015 (CEST)

Hallå? Det är dags.

[ insert IKEA-dalahäst ] vassegå --Admin.png Χρυσοφύλαξ 11:08, 13 July 2015 (CEST)

Offensive

I find this offensive Zelos.png Emperor Zelos 16:37, 21 June 2016 (CEST)

Sixth Linguifex Relay

Hay Nankôre sikorôsno ras. Pahi ha tahitáh ne!

Here are the Nankôre words. Good fortune to you! Anyar (talk) 04:02, 28 August 2018 (CEST)