User:Anyar
Fourth_Linguifex_Relay/Minhast
Intro
My conlangs (a better intro to follow, one of these days...no, really, I mean it!)
Late Ma'nijr
Minhast
Minhast/Dialectology
Nahónda
Nankôre
Corrádi
Peshpeg
Golahát
Dzvada Vezhua Dlin
Other people's conlangs:
Magellanican
Celinese
Attian
Tsan
Anathic
Kandi
Kihā́mmic
Dhannuá
Fén Ghír
I_Kronurum
User:Nicolasstraccia/Minhastid
Thulean
Rówok
Chlouvānem
User:Frrurtu
Relays
- Fourth Linguifex Relay
- Fifth Linguifex Relay (didn't attend - out of country?)
- Sixth Linguifex Relay
- Nankôre Relay #6
Commentary on Some Random Stuff
Minhast Morphosyntax Notes
Some Dialectal Comparisons
The following all mean, "Yes, the markings of my clan" (see story "The Detective and the Deer")
Modern Standard:
- Eyla, huzzaktešim baktemtakkemt - eyla, huzzakteš=min baktet-makkem=de - yes clan=CONN tattoo-3P.COMM+3P.INAN=ERG
Osprey Speaker:
- Ayle,izzakšim baktektemme - ayle,izzakš=min baktet-kemm=e - yes clan=CONN tattoo-3P.COMM+3P.COMM=ERG
Upper Minhast:
- Ēlā, huzzakteš min baktemtakkemmide - ēlā, huzzakteš min baktet-makkem=de - yes clan CONN tattoo-3P.COMM+3P.INAN=ERG
Gull Speaker:
- Ellay, uzzaktešin baktetunkemp - ellay, uzzakteš=min baktet-unkem=de - yes clan=CONN tattoo-3P.COMM+3P.INAN=ERG
- For whatever reason, the Osprey speakers treat tattoo ("baktet") as an animate noun. Like the IE languages that retain gender distinctions, gender can be discordant in Minhast too.
- The ergative also is used as a genitive marker, as in Yup'ik (Iiirc Inupiaq shares this feature, hence why I presume other Eskimoan languages share this feature)
Noun Incorporation
- This is an example of Minthun's Classificatory NI (Class IV) being exploited by Minhast. Here, it is essentially creating the equivalent of a locative noun in other languages, e.g. English "Within the interior of the beast...", which is essentially an Inessive-like case construction. Here, nua means "side", and has been incorporated into the verb complex. The implicit head is suharak (deerskin), which was mentioned in a previous line in the passage, which is what the Locative applicative naħk- is referring to. This construction is equivalent to saying "Next to it", "By its side", etc.
- Tayyamakim tayyapte naħkixripuxnutartimmahabu
tayyamak min tayyap=de naħk-xr-pux-nua-tar-timmah-ab-u
thunder CONN ball=ERG LOC.APPL-ITER-boom-side-3S.ANIM.ABS+3S.ANIM.ERG-IMPF-TRANS
Thunder-balls explode next to it.
- Putting this here before I forget, more NI stuff. Many (most?) of the NI forms of Minhast nouns are irregular, the majority of which exhibit what I call "truncation". I've never seen this term in the NI literature before, but here's an example from the Sora language (Munda family, India). The first example shows the analytic version of the sentence "Will they eat the buffalo/ Do they eat buffalo?". The second example shows the noun incorporated-version of the same sentence:
- bɔŋtɛlәnәdɔŋ jomtɛji pɔ
bɔŋtɛl-әn-әdɔŋ jom-t-ɛ-ji pɔ
buffalo-/әn/3-ACC eat-NPST-3S-PL.S Q
Will they eat the buffalo/ Do they eat buffalo?
- jombɔŋtɛnji pɔ
jom-bɔŋ-t-ɛ-n-ji pɔ
eat-buffalo-NPST-3S-INTR-PL.S Q
Will they eat the buffalo/ Do they eat buffalo?
Notice in the independent form of buffalo, bɔŋtɛl, loses its final syllable in its incorporated form, -bɔŋ-. Minhast exhibits extensive truncation when nouns undergo incorporation, e.g. sussagarānī > -suggan- (big toe), hispawak > -hispak- (birch), izzesparak > -spark- (canoe).
Nouns of three syllables or more are almost always truncated, and the pattern of truncation is unpredictable; syllable loss may occur in initial, medial, or final positions, although nouns with tri-syllabic roots tend to lose either their medial or final syllables and retain the initial syllable, but exceptions abound, such as allāga > -lgagg- (conch) .
EDIT: Muro's term for this behaviour is weak suppletion
- Sora examples taken from "NOUN INCORPORATION: A NEW THEORETICAL PERSPECTIVE" (Alessio Muro, 2009)
Anyar (talk) 23:41, 10 February 2019 (CET)
Vadi
Verb Template for Vadi
Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text | Header text |
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Active-Transitive | -- | Asp1 | Pt | √ Vb | Tns | Asp2 | Class | Agt |
Active-Intransitive | -- | Asp1 | Pt | √ Vb | Tns | Asp2 | Class | Agt |
Stative-Intransitive | Stative | Asp1 | -- | √ Vb | Tns | Asp2 | Class | Pt |
Active-Transitive | Active-Intransitive | Stative-Intransitive |
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-- | -- | Stative |
Asp1 | Asp1 | Asp1 |
Pt | -- | -- |
√ Vb | √ Vb | √ Vb |
Tns | Tns | Tns |
Asp2 | Asp2 | Asp2 |
Class | Class | Class |
Agt | Agt | Pt |
HELP!!!
User talk:Chrysophylax
User_talk:Waahlis
How to gloss: Template:Gloss
Some helpful tools:
http://www.tablesgenerator.com/mediawiki_tables (WYSIWYG - Use to quickly create wiki tables)
http://www.ebruni.it/en/software/os/i_love_wiki/index.mpl
http://bmanolov.free.fr/html2wiki-tables.php
Templates
Template:Minhast_Portmanteau_Pronominal_Affixes1
Template:Minhast_Portmanteau_Pronominal_Affixes2
Template Page: Go to [[Category:Templates]]
Scratch Pad
Example of linking to a within-page topic
[[Nankôre#Verbs|Verbs]]
Sample Gloss Template
Example:
{{Gloss |phrase = hatāʔ | IPA = /ha.'ta:ʔ/ | morphemes = whatevs | gloss = INTERROG-evs-NUMB | translation = Whatever }}
Sample Paradigm Template
Example:
{| class="bluetable lightbluebg sortable mw-collapsible" |- ! ! colspan="2"|Header #1 ! colspan="2"|Header #2 ! Header #3 ! colspan="2" | Header #4 |- ! ! Item #1 ! Item #2 ! colspan="2"| column span ! Row Span ! Colspan + Rowspan |- ! Row #1: | style="text-align:center"|su- | style="text-align:center"|ve- | style="text-align:center"|ve- | style="text-align:center"|ve- | style="text-align:center" rowspan="2"|rowspan- | style="text-align:center" colspan="2" rowspan="2"|d |- ! Row #2: | style="text-align:center"|s- | style="text-align:center"|v- | style="text-align:center"|m- | style="text-align:center"|jor- |- |}
...yields...
Header #1 | Header #2 | Header #3 | Header #4 | ||||
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Item #1 | Item #2 | column span | Row Span | Colspan + Rowspan | |||
Row #1: | su- | ve- | ve- | ve- | rowspan- | d | |
Row #2: | s- | v- | m- | jor- |
Basic Clade
{{clade |1={{clade |1={{clade |1=Leaf1|state1=dashed |2=Leaf2 }} |2=Leaf3 }} }}
Clade - Traditional Minhast Dialectal Grouping
Classical Minhast |
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Actual Markup:
{{clade |label1=''Classical Minhast'' |1={{clade |label1=''Upper Minhast'' |1={{clade |1={{clade |label1=''Salmonic'' |1={{clade |1=Salmon Speaker |2=Wolf Speaker }} |2=Horse Speaker |3=Bear Speaker |4=Fox Speaker |5=Dog Speaker |6=Elk Speaker |7=Seal Speaker }} }}<!-- Close node for Upper Minhast--> |label2=''Lower Minhast'' |2={{clade |1={{clade |1=Osprey Speaker |2=Egret Speaker |3=Gull Speaker |4=Stone Speaker }} }}<!-- Close node for Lower Minhast--> }}<!-- Close node for Classical Minhast--> }}
Clade - Niccola's Crane Speakers
Minhastic Languages |
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